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Supreet Virdi May 28, 2011, 04:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I'm truly thrilled and excited to hear about AMD APU's, from laptops point of view I believe this is an amazing innovation build from the ground up. This does not only eliminate the use of discrete, traditional IGP which uses UMA but also decreases latency for even faster access to other resources available immediately. Since the elements required from processing would on the same die i.e.,.I/O controllers, UVD and memory controllers.

As I'm reading this as below, I even more convinced that within couple of years it will in fact dominate both desktop and laptop market.

http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/48423B_fusion_whitepaper_WEB.pdf

Taken from the above link - "AMD’s APUs are set to arrive in a variety of shapes and sizes adapted to the requirements of their target markets. AMD has disclosed that its first APUs, code-named “Llano” and “Ontario,” are designed for mainstream desktop and notebook platforms and “thin and light”

Not to forget, to have all the required elements on single die makes work more easier and faster and obviously require less raw materials.

I suggest you guys who are interested to read the above mentioned link to acquire more information on an amazing piece of work. Not to mention Bulldozer to come in future! ;)

Check this out too:
http://sites.amd.com/us/fusion/apu/Pages/fusion-quotes.aspx


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Supreet Virdi May 28, 2011, 04:30pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD APU - Accelerated Processing Units
You may also register for AMD Fusion Developer Summit at the following link:

http://developer.amd.com/afds/pages/default.aspx

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Dr. Peaceful May 31, 2011, 01:26pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Are you working for AMD now, Supreet? LOL ;)

The Fusion chip is quite an innovation, which beats the hack out of Atom in the graphics department. It reduces platform costs, too, that's why a lot of the Hudson M1 laptops are pretty cheap to have.

However, the processing power at this point is no compare to main stream processors like Intel i3 and i5. It's a perfect fit for the netbook / ultra-portable segment, but not quite up to par for traditional laptops.

kOrny May 31, 2011, 11:58pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yeah those Fusion CPU's are awesome! I had one in a laptop I recently gave to my sister. That thing flew in comparison to my old intel atom netbook. I could actually surf the internet and watch HD video with no lag and even play CS:S at decent settings. Laptop was under $400 too and came with 3GB DDR3. Great stuff. I see an interesting future for them.

Supreet Virdi Jun 01, 2011, 12:03am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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No, unfortunately I'm not working with AMD :-(, but you I would love to, especially in ATI department. Yes, I partially agree with you on the processing power compared to Intel, but you know this is very innovative idea which also save lots and lots of raw materials. Hence, I would also like to add "Green" word with AMD Fusion too ;). But upcoming CPUs would undoubtedly rule Laptop segment especially.

Remember Intel will not always remain ahead in CPU department, but they have miles to go in GPU department.

Now Korny have practical experience, he finds it good, see! :)

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Dr. Peaceful Jun 01, 2011, 02:00am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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You're right about green, the Fusion chip uses very little power. A dual cores E-350 Zacate uses only 18W of power. Manufacturers can easily make netbook / ultra-portable with 6 hours or more of battery life.

I am very interested in this technology too, and in fact will be getting my own Fusion laptop, soon. Save money, save power, save space, and still get decent processing and graphics power. What more can I ask... ;)

Supreet Virdi Jun 02, 2011, 12:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I am also wondering how low they can go as far as fabrication process is concerned, current Fusion CPUs are already based 32nm SOI, and 28nm SOI is around the corner too. Just wondering WHAT would be the future of Fusion, Imagine AMD Fusion CPU with six cores on 26nm SOI (hypothetically) with ATI Radeon HD 7xx0!

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Meats_Of_Evil Jun 02, 2011, 02:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Supreet Virdi (24355) said on Jun 02, 2011 at 13:29 ADT:
I am also wondering how low they can go as far as fabrication process is concerned, current Fusion CPUs are already based 32nm SOI, and 28nm SOI is around the corner too. Just wondering WHAT would be the future of Fusion, Imagine AMD Fusion CPU with six cores on 26nm SOI (hypothetically) with ATI Radeon HD 7xx0!


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Supreet Virdi Jun 02, 2011, 04:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Supreet Virdi (24355) said on Jun 02, 2011 at 13:29 ADT:
I am also wondering how low they can go as far as fabrication process is concerned, current Fusion CPUs are already based 32nm SOI, and 28nm SOI is around the corner too. Just wondering WHAT would be the future of Fusion, Imagine AMD Fusion CPU with six cores on 26nm SOI (hypothetically) with ATI Radeon HD 7xx0!


wet dream!


Not quite! Take a look at the following link*:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion




* Highlighting as below:
Desktop Comal Mobile
Trinity Weatherford Richland In Development
H1 2012 32nm SOI 2-4 Enhanced Bulldozer "Piledriver" cores Northern Islands

This is some really serious stuff.

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G. G. Jun 02, 2011, 05:34pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dr. Peaceful said:
You're right about green, the Fusion chip uses very little power. .....


At least they got the "Green" color right. eheheh

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Supreet Virdi Jun 02, 2011, 05:52pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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G. G. said:
Dr. Peaceful said:
You're right about green, the Fusion chip uses very little power. .....


At least they got the "Green" color right. eheheh


Yes, as per their "Green" AMD logo ;)

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G. G. Jun 02, 2011, 07:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD APU - Accelerated Processing Units
Supreet Virdi said:
G. G. said:
Dr. Peaceful said:
You're right about green, the Fusion chip uses very little power. .....


At least they got the "Green" color right. eheheh


Yes, as per their "Green" AMD logo ;)



Yayyyyy...... you get the cookie..... yup that is what I was referring to... ;)

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Dr. Peaceful Jun 03, 2011, 11:43am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Supreet Virdi said:
Meats_Of_Evil said:
Supreet Virdi (24355) said on Jun 02, 2011 at 13:29 ADT:
I am also wondering how low they can go as far as fabrication process is concerned, current Fusion CPUs are already based 32nm SOI, and 28nm SOI is around the corner too. Just wondering WHAT would be the future of Fusion, Imagine AMD Fusion CPU with six cores on 26nm SOI (hypothetically) with ATI Radeon HD 7xx0!


wet dream!


Not quite! Take a look at the following link*:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion


* Highlighting as below:
Desktop Comal Mobile
Trinity Weatherford Richland In Development
H1 2012 32nm SOI 2-4 Enhanced Bulldozer "Piledriver" cores Northern Islands

This is some really serious stuff.

From same wiki link:
"Piledriver is the codename for the new core design... Piledriver based APUs will be manufactured on the 32nm SOI process..."

No kidding, man, that's a pretty hard-core name for a APU core. XD

Supreet Virdi Jun 03, 2011, 11:49am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dr. Peaceful said:
Supreet Virdi said:
Meats_Of_Evil said:
Supreet Virdi (24355) said on Jun 02, 2011 at 13:29 ADT:
I am also wondering how low they can go as far as fabrication process is concerned, current Fusion CPUs are already based 32nm SOI, and 28nm SOI is around the corner too. Just wondering WHAT would be the future of Fusion, Imagine AMD Fusion CPU with six cores on 26nm SOI (hypothetically) with ATI Radeon HD 7xx0!


wet dream!


Not quite! Take a look at the following link*:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion



* Highlighting as below:
Desktop Comal Mobile
Trinity Weatherford Richland In Development
H1 2012 32nm SOI 2-4 Enhanced Bulldozer "Piledriver" cores Northern Islands

This is some really serious stuff.

From same wiki link:
"Piledriver is the codename for the new core design... Piledriver based APUs will be manufactured on the 32nm SOI process..."

No kidding, man, that's a pretty hard-core name for a APU core. XD



Yes I saw that, upto four cores is possible. I think is practically possible to do the same on 28nm SOI with advanced Graphics and six cores.

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Dr. Peaceful Jun 03, 2011, 11:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Got to wonder about one thing... So APU is CPU and GPU combined in one chip. When they talk about 4 to 6 cores, are they talking about cores for the CPU or the GPU?

Supreet Virdi Jun 03, 2011, 11:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jun 03, 2011, 11:59am EDT

 
>> Re: AMD APU - Accelerated Processing Units
Cores for the CPU! Not GPU. Kindly check the above PDF diagram, although what you just wrote is also quite possible on same fabrication process with more advance High-K dielectric gates.


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Dr. Peaceful Jun 03, 2011, 12:00pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yeah man, would be cool to have 4 cores CPU and 2 cores GPU in the same chip! That would be interesting.

G. G. Jun 03, 2011, 12:07pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD APU - Accelerated Processing Units
Supreet Virdi said:
Cores for the CPU! Not GPU. Kindly check the above PDF diagram, although what you just wrote is also quite possible on same fabrication process with more advance High-K dielectric gates.



It might be possible for them to do that if they were to license or their own version of Intel's 3D gate process that is being used in the up coming Ivy Bridge.

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Supreet Virdi Jun 03, 2011, 12:13pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dr. Peaceful said:
Yeah man, would be cool to have 4 cores CPU and 2 cores GPU in the same chip! That would be interesting.


It is possible, thinking they've already done it with Graphic cards having two GPU's. Now it all about putting it on a core, and doing it so on Fusion platform wouldn't be any hassle.

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Supreet Virdi Jun 03, 2011, 12:14pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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G. G. said:
Supreet Virdi said:
Cores for the CPU! Not GPU. Kindly check the above PDF diagram, although what you just wrote is also quite possible on same fabrication process with more advance High-K dielectric gates.



It might be possible for them to do that if they were to license or their own version of Intel's 3D gate process that is being used in the up coming Ivy Bridge.


I have no information about that, I'll search upon it, thanks G.G.

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Supreet Virdi Jun 03, 2011, 12:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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But for the time being I think they're simply concentrating on including more Shader Processors, Texture Units and ROPs.

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