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john albrich Aug 20, 2011, 07:00am EDT Report Abuse


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~Vel Aug 21, 2011, 12:25am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
I'm aware of Facebook Connect for commenting on certain sites like the Gawker Network among others but I haven't heard or seen anything like this. It sounds pretty bizarre to me, what are some of the sites that you've encountered this with so I know what to stay away from?

Meats_Of_Evil Aug 21, 2011, 02:57am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
I've seen many websites that you can use facebook to log in and comment but it's not a requirement just an option.

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john albrich Aug 21, 2011, 04:12am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
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That's what I'd seen until just a few days ago...when it started becoming a requirement.

It's happening to me on just about every significant major media website; msnbc, fox, cbs, abc, huffington, drudge, wnd, guardian (UK), etc. It doesn't seem to be biased for or against any particular political leaning as it's encountered on websites running a broad spectrum of Left to Right websites.

It's not a problem on youtube, HWA, tomshardware, etc. but then none of these allow the user to comment by logging in using another website's ID alternative. It may not be related but that's the only common factor I've seen so far...if a website offers the option to sign in using another website (including Facebook), then this damn thing pops-up.

Kind of why I was thinking it was some sort of bizarre virus...maybe even some weird variant of a "Denial of Service" attack. But instead of denying access by overloading the systems, it lets people access the sites but simply keeps people from participating on media websites thus disrupting political discussions and keeping people from sharing information...UNLESS they sign in using their Facebook ID. And, since Facebook tries to ensure people use their REAL ID. Since everything is in one nice convenient website, it makes it easier to track them down (for whatever reason one might have).

I could think of several reasons certain people/governments might like that.

~Vel Aug 21, 2011, 05:06am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
Just tried to leave a comment on msnbc.com. I get asked for a name and an email, but that's it. Nothing about requiring a Facebook login. Firefox 6, AdBlock and Ghostery off.

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john albrich Aug 27, 2011, 09:07am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID

Here's a specific webpage as of a few minutes ago...

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Clark-Gables-Grandson-...79268.html

Dr. Peaceful Aug 27, 2011, 08:00pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
LOL, just as we talked about Laser in the other thread... XD

Anyway, I have no problem opening that link, i.e. no asking of any Facebook credentials. I guess it's a high probability that you have some kind of spyware trying to hijack your facebook ID. You're probably right about that.

Meats_Of_Evil Aug 28, 2011, 11:26pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
^^^ ^^^
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Stephen Thurmon Aug 30, 2011, 01:15pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
I started having this same problem just a bit before you did. I was using Facebook to sign in previously to comment on Worldnetdaily.com , a conservative website. I noticed that some of my posts, which did not have anything in them to cause moderation and was not informed of that, would simply disappear.

It got so bad that I cancelled my Facebook account as I suspected what you did, the politcal activism at Facebook. It takes 14 days to cancel Facebook and has to be done in a certain way which I did. When I try to login on that site using Yahoo, when I type the 4th word, the Facebook log in box appears requiring a log in which I don't do because if you do before the 14 days Facebook will renew your account.

Esssentially, I'm locked out of commenting because of Facebook and cannot find a fix for this. Have you discovered anything new since your post here? Please let me know, I'm at wits end about this. I believe we could have a suit against Facebook or whoever is causing it, perhaps we could join in on one if necessary. It is a First Amendment violation to do what is happening to us, in my opinion.


Stephen Thurmon Aug 30, 2011, 01:24pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Virus? Many Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
John, I just thought of something that may help.

I had a different problem on Worldnetdaily.com and complained of it to Joseph Farah by e-mailing him. I got a reply from him personally about it, he is concerned about matters like this one. I believe if we went to Worldnetdaily.com and complained to Mr. Farah, the owner, he would get something done about it. I'm sure that he would want to know about it and with his resources and clout it would get resolved. I'm going there now to send the e-mail and encourage others to do the same. I would suggest scrolling down to the "Contact" button and then sending it to the menu choice "News tips....etc." and addressing it to Joseph Farah.
That way it accomplishes two purposes, it brings it to his attention and the newsrooms' attention as this may be a very big story.

john albrich Oct 19, 2011, 10:43pm EDT Report Abuse
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john albrich Oct 19, 2011, 10:49pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Increasing Numbers Of Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
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I just got this email from KCRA (Sacramento, CA) website. Please note that they see REQUIRING Facebook as an "important site improvement".
You've received a community alert from kcra at KCRA 3 u local Community.
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We wanted to take a moment to tell you about an important site improvement that will affect the way in which users comment on news stories on our website. Following a site improvement on October 20 commenting on news stories will require signing in through a Facebook account. This improvement will allow even more of the community to engage in news story commenting and provide a better overall site experience for all of our users. Because of the transition, existing commenting accounts will no longer be able to login.


I also refer you to
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/77954/
"What The Hell Is Wrong With These People?"
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referencing where United States elected representatives (Congress) attempted to make "lying" on sites such as Facebook a...FELONY. Never mind they rescinded making it a felony for now (so now it's what...just a misdemeanor?)...it will come back. BTW, jurisdiction would apply only if you're in the USA.

So, any attempt to post even pseudo-anonymously on all these internet sites will be illegal.

NO protection for your family, your job, etc. (You do know you can be fired or your career side-tracked for sharing the "wrong" personal opinions on websites, right?)



edit to add 201110200425UCT:
Just got email from WLWT (Cincinnati, OH) website that's identical to the earlier one from KCRA Probably owned by same group.

GtoX (capt Guns) Oct 20, 2011, 10:15am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Increasing Numbers Of Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
In sweden, we've been facebook-ified.. even though im a user myself, i just feel like puking all over that f*cknig sh*t... people take facebook so damn f*cking serious here, and you can notice it everywhere..

starting off, 90% of swedish webpages requires facebook login to leave a comment.. this applies to tiny websites, to our biggest news websites.. its ridiculous.. i hate it, which is why i dont leave comments anymore..


oh yea, even most companies here are on facebook and stuff.. like i said, its OVERDONE!

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john albrich Oct 21, 2011, 01:47pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Facebook Building 'Shadow Profiles' of Non-Members?
Facebook Building 'Shadow Profiles' of Non-Members, Experts Allege
By Gene J. Koprowski, October 21, 2011
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/21/facebook-building-sh...ts-allege/
Eight hundred million users are not enough. Facebook, the world's biggest social network, is now building profiles of non-users who haven't even signed up, an international privacy watchdog charges."

Stephen Thurmon Oct 21, 2011, 02:28pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Increasing Numbers Of Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
And of course this is proceeding unabated, right in line with the loss of many other Constitutional rights lately. If we accept it, then we will be accepting a tyranny. To far too many this would be acceptable, but it is not to me.

BoT Oct 23, 2011, 08:37pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Increasing Numbers Of Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
i don't think it is as serious as it may sound like even thou i very well understand many of th concerns mentioned here.

Facebook as well as Google (Google+) have released their Account verification API's and promoting it strongly to large and busy websites. Microsoft had their API out for a while.
The process and implementation has been streamlined drastically since the beginning of this year for all three. so now it is much easier for just about anybody to implement it in their website. I actually have Google Friend Connect on my site.

It's much more a concern of the website/ host you are visiting then Facebook, Google or Windows Live. the websites/ hosts want to track visitors and they want to do it well beyond google analytics. it's primarily to improve SEO and website traffic.
the more they know about you, the more they know what is needed on that website.

is that good? depends on how you see. security and privacy certainly come to mind as mentioned.

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Stephen Thurmon Oct 24, 2011, 11:54am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Increasing Numbers Of Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
My issue, as stated earlier, was that I had posts that were outright deleted, not for moderation, there was nothing in them that would trigger that. It was purely political, a way of keeping out information that was not good for Obama, not just the Left/Right paradigm stuff, which is allowed, but things which are in his background which can be documented to show that he is a very dangerous man. There would be no reason to delete those posts unless the truth is too harmful to him. It is frightening for an organization like Facebook to have the power to censor on matters that affect this country and it's people. When we cannot speak of these things, we cannot cause a change in them, and to not be able to cause a change in things which cause us harm, by our ignorance, then we are doomed to continue down a path of destruction.

This is more than gathering information for betterment of a website or for advertisers, it is a serious violation of our right to communicate important information so that we can promote awareness of the criminality of our leaders and our government. Does anyone doubt that this is how we ended up in our present situation, financially, politically? Does anyone think we should just let that go, and assume the censorship benign? I think that we better rethink that issue, and that is my point in having posted here.

john albrich Oct 24, 2011, 03:35pm EDT Report Abuse
>> The All-Encompassing Single Gatekeeper
Stephen Thurmon said:
...Does anyone think we should just let that go, and assume the censorship benign? I think that we better rethink that issue, and that is my point in having posted here.


If people have been concerned about the increasing corporate and/or ideological consolidation of "The Press" (aka Mainstream Media, part of the Fourth Branch of Government, the Voice of the People, the Watchdogs of Liberty, etc), then people should be very concerned about the increasing possibility of a for all practical purposes all-encompassing single Gatekeeper...ie: the Facebook ID internet validation and access model.

...assuming they even know that it is happening.

john albrich Nov 09, 2011, 05:06pm EST Report Abuse
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~Vel Nov 10, 2011, 02:39am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Increasing Numbers Of Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
I had to facepalm while reading that last one.

BoT Nov 11, 2011, 11:12pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Increasing Numbers Of Websites REQUIRING Facebook ID
shouldn't be throwing with rock if he is sitting in the glass house

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