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mothow Sep 18, 2011, 05:57pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Sep 18, 2011, 05:58pm EDT

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Come on guys what should i get.They cost about the same.I sold my GTX470's so i need something quick


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john albrich Sep 18, 2011, 08:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Sep 18, 2011, 08:46pm EDT

 
>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
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I'd go for the GTX570, especially if you were previously satisfied with the GTX drivers with your motherboard and OS. I'm tempted to buy a GTX550Ti or GTX460 card (if I can find one in a really good sale) myself simply because of the issues I seem to run into with Catalyst drivers from card to card.

Not only does Passmark rate the GTX570 higher than the HD6970, it's rated a better value re: price/performance. While Passmark isn't the only benchmark/review site out there I like their methodology. Other sites too often seem to have more restrictive test platforms and methods which can bias testing which could or provide somewhat misleading results.

However, IF there is a specific game and/or platform that is close to your planned usage being provided by a different website that compares these two cards, you might find that more useful.


edit: got more specific with which GTX cards I'd try assuming a sufficiently low price

mothow Sep 18, 2011, 08:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Im a nvidia fanboy and i want the GTX570 but if the 6970 is a better card im willing to try it out

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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?

Here's the Passmark video card rating webpage. You can sort the columns by clicking on the column header:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Well according to Tom's Enthusiast Index chart:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics-charts...,2674.html

The 6970 is better but not by much. If you're that used to Nvidia cards then grab the GTX570, though If I were you I would get the better performer, wouldn't you want to try out an Ati card for once?

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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Meats_Of_Evil said:
Well according to Tom's Enthusiast Index chart:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics-charts...,2674.html

The 6970 is better but not by much. If you're that used to Nvidia cards then grab the GTX570, though If I were you I would get the better performer, wouldn't you want to try out an Ati card for once?


I still think past experience with reliability and stability remains a critical component in the purchasing decision. If one hasn't had much trouble with AMD/ATi cards on a specific system/OS, then go with that brand, depending on budget. Similarly for NVIDIA. I wouldn't sweat over published performance ratings that differ by about +/-10%.

I just can't see either the HD6970 or GTX570 being the undisputed "better performer". These kinds of tests and their results leave a LOT to be desired when it comes to scientific rigour. Just looking at the way they flipped back and forth depending on which game/settings Tom's used shows high variability due to just a few settings...never mind the variability that would be introduced in results from fundamental system and OS environment differences.

If you use the compare checkboxes on the 6970 and 570 to look at specific tests on Tom's, you'll see the 570 comes out "ahead" in some games and benchmarks (e.g. Mafia2, maximum settings), while the 6970 is "ahead" in others (e.g. Alien v Predator, maximum settings). But it's likely even minor system and system-state differences between tests could overwhelm the video card performance differences, perhaps even flip them. Use a different system or OS/patch level and you could get significantly different numbers.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4x3ob7a
(this takes you to a preview URL to a HD6970 v GTX570 comparison page on tomshardware.com Just click on the "proceed to this site" link if you feel comfortable doing so.)

Passmark
G3D=3569
GeForce GTX 570 (EVGA (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5)

G3D=3140
Radeon HD 6970 (PowerColor AX6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5)

TomsHardware
"Enthusiast Index" Score=215
AMD HD 6970 Crossfire (Radeon HD 6970 2GB)

"Enthusiast Index" Score=207
Nvidia GTX 570 SLI (Geforce GTX 570 1.25 GB GDDR5)



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Had to change the link to the Tomshardware comparison webpage to a "tinyurl" because HWA wouldn't properly parse the long direct version

Michael C Sep 19, 2011, 09:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
6950 unlock to 6970 BAM!

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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Michael C said:
6950 unlock to 6970 BAM!

They can still do that?

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Michael C Sep 19, 2011, 02:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Pretty sure they still can. Might wanna read up on newer cards though.

mothow Sep 19, 2011, 02:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
How do you like yours Micheal?

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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
whats the point of going from 4xx to 5xx series of cards -.-

Especially how next year PCI-E 3.0 cards will be out

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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Honestly it's my favorite card to date. I have no problems playing games on the highest settings, even Crysis 2. It easily unlocked to a 6970. I did have a problem in FEAR 3 with it crashing(but no other games), so I downclocked it a bit and no problems now(FEAR 3 is very touchy with overclocks, sadly). For the price, I think the 6950 is the best deal if you unlock it, otherwise the 560Ti.

Here is my card:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161368

560Ti:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565

mothow Sep 19, 2011, 06:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
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whats the point of going from 4xx to 5xx series of cards -.-

Especially how next year PCI-E 3.0 cards will be out

Wanted something that runs cooler.My GTX470's were running 98c

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Edited: Sep 19, 2011, 06:23pm EDT

 
>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
oh, ya then that makes sense lol. I am a bit jealous of my friends 560ti that runs at half of my temps.


Though I was surprized, this was the first summer when I had my 800D, and even at full load during 35+ degree days my temps weren't high at all. This is all considering 2x470's that do run at 90 degrees, and absence of air con in my house.

First time ever didn't need to run my comp with the side taken off.

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mothow Sep 19, 2011, 06:25pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Yeah i might even get a 560TI im not sure yet

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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
that's what i'd get. runs everything maxed out right now and doesnt cost that much. there are no good new games out anyways. prolly will let you wait all the way till dx12

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john albrich Sep 20, 2011, 08:20am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
sovietdoc said:
whats the point of going from 4xx to 5xx series of cards....


I'm not sure if you're limiting that to just NVIDIA 4xx to 5xx or meant to include AMD 4xxx to 5xxx as well, but some of the differences apply also to the sound handling features. For example I think that if you want lossless pass-through audio on the AMD cards, you have to be at least in the 5XXX series. It may be also dependent on specific manufacturer and/or model number within the series.

As for NVIDIA 4xx cards, that too may depend on specific manufacturer and/or model number within the series.

That would be an important consideration if you want Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio routed without modification to your audio system.

I don't know for sure because I don't have a sound system capable of either Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio...I'm still at the "old" 5.1 channel Dolby and DTS decoding. I don't see any need to go with more than what I have in my lounge and consider HD audio to be a marketing gimmick.

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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
A bit off topic here, I've listened my friends blurays at dts MA HD 24/192 in 7.1 and I really can't tell any acoustic difference between that and my 5.1 24bit/96khz DVD Audio discs.

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Edited: Sep 20, 2011, 11:06pm EDT

 
>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Ordered a Evga. GTX570 SC tonight

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Meats_Of_Evil Sep 21, 2011, 01:04am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Mothow said:

Wanted something that runs cooler.My GTX470's were running 98c



Pfft what a whiny! My 8800gt SLI have reached 108c this summer and I didn't even check the cpu temp! Your hardware can take that and more.

Also, I assume you'll be getting 2x GTX 570's?


Mothow you must be ready for when Battlefield 3 comes out, the game looks so freaking good, that you'll want to play it maxed out.


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mothow Sep 22, 2011, 05:47pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 vs 6970 what should i get?
Got it today so far so good.Seems faster than my GTX470

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