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~Vel Mar 03, 2012, 05:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I installed it earlier in the week as a VM on my MBP. Aside from some audio issues and multi-touch issues (which I assume is because it's a preview in a VM on a Mac), it's running pretty smoothly. After about 10 minutes of learning the Metro UI, I actually enjoy using it because I find it fun and fresh. I can see a lot of power users disliking it in preference of a more utilitarian UI but at the consumer level, I think it's a great step after people stop freaking the f**k out about the start menu being replaced with Metro.

Probably my favorite feature is that by hitting the Windows Key, it takes you straight to the Metro UI. I'm really wondering how elegantly they're going to redo the tooltip notifications.


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angryhippy Mar 03, 2012, 09:25pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I could get used to it but I don't have to like it. It's just 7 as far as I can tell with the start menu so discombobulated you need to read up to figure out how to use it. Took me 10 damn minutes to figure out how to reboot. I suppose it would have been easier if I didn't use a 4 year old Nokia phone? I did find a spare 35GB's on a petition I could peel off to create one for this thing and did install it permanent so I'm triple booting now XP 7 and 8. That set up OK for those wondering how to set it up.

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Debating if i even wanna try it.Since i dont have a touch screen monitor

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~Vel Mar 04, 2012, 07:31pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I don't either and it works fine, you just have to slide your mouse to the bottom corners.

Nathan Daniels Mar 04, 2012, 09:32pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I think it is really nice. I don't like the divide between desktop applications and metro applications and I cannot for the life of me figure out that strange task switcher on the leftof the screen but other than that, it's better than Windows 7 IMO.

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angryhippy Mar 04, 2012, 11:24pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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How come you think it is better Does it seem faster to you? Do you think gaming is better? Curious what you think in detail a bit. I have all my desktop crap set up on the metro side. You can put pretty much anything that's on 7's start menu up there.
I'm gonna do some cross system gaming tonight and compare FPS on a couple different games. MassEffect3, MW3, maybe some F.E.A.R.3. BF3. Metro2033. I'll do at least 3 of them. lol

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Nathan Daniels Mar 05, 2012, 09:07am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Any difference in performance between 7 and 8 will be negligible on any decent system so that is not a criterion for my judgement. I judge the OS based on useability. The changes to Windows Explorer and Task Manager are awesome (I secretly love the Ribbon design and the return of the 'Up' button in explorer is clearly a sign of divine intervention). The drive-pooling feature is cool. The shift from the command-line-like pre-boot (selecting an OS) and error messages (BSODs) to a cleaner-looking graphical design is nice. System-wide integration with Windows Live is also a much needed feature.

I'm sure I will come to enjoy and eventually rely on the Metro UI just as I have with the Ribbon design and the Windows 7 task bar but for the moment I am pretty lost with it.

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Meats_Of_Evil Mar 05, 2012, 11:04am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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angryhippy said:
How come you think it is better Does it seem faster to you? Do you think gaming is better? Curious what you think in detail a bit. I have all my desktop crap set up on the metro side. You can put pretty much anything that's on 7's start menu up there.
I'm gonna do some cross system gaming tonight and compare FPS on a couple different games. MassEffect3, MW3, maybe some F.E.A.R.3. BF3. Metro2033. I'll do at least 3 of them. lol



Yes please!!!! I was pretty bummed with Windows 8 since none of the articles mentioned anything related to gaming. This OS is just a big GUI re-design.

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Dr. Peaceful Mar 05, 2012, 09:21pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Downloaded the Win8 preview few days ago, only today have the time to play around with the installation. Turned out it does NOT support M$'s own Windows Virtual PC or Windows XP Mode at all. That sucks! I heard some sources that they are dumping both of these products for Hyper-V in the near future.

Vel, pretty cool that you're able to do it in Mac's VM... I heard some other 3rd party VM software are also able to do it. Probably will give those a try later.

Same time I might as well find a real machine with a spare drive / partition, and do a real install to see how it looks.

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Ran a few different games. Pretty much no difference. I'm gonna be uninstalling it and going back to 7. As of yet I see no real advantage with 8. A tiny bit of speed difference but I'm betting that's more related to a fresh install than any advantage from the OS. If they end up putting the 7 start menu as an option maybe but why spend the money when you are happy with what you've got. 8 is definitely not a game changer from where I sit. If you want a touch screen fine. I'll stick with my 28" monitor. Oh ya there are some bad sound issues. Might be from the ATI Beta drivers for 8 or Realtek drivers not sure. Not gonna waste my time figuring it out.

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Dr. Peaceful Mar 07, 2012, 05:03pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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After another night of mucking around with the Win8 Preview installation, I finally got it to install in a VM! F**king A, man! ;)

I used VirtualBox. In order for it to work, you MUST enable PAE/NX, VT-x/AMD-V and Nested Paging in VBox; AND enable CPU virtualization support in the BIOS (of the real machine). Otherwise you will get the "Your PC needs to be repaired" error! http://www.eightforums.com/installation-setup/4032-your-pc-nee...00260.html I learned this the hard way...

Also, I did also try to install Win8 to a real machine (an old AM2 machine), but without success. I created a Win8 install USB drive and used it for the installation. The installation went smoothly until near the last part of installation (where you choose your custom color), then crashed into a graphical corruption. Rebooted many times, but the same graphic corruption kept coming up. Redid the installation a 2nd time, this time it went through all the way. But on 1st boot, graphics got corrupted again...

I guess there are still some driver problems between Win8 and older hardware, especially this is just a beta release. Hope these will be ironed out upon the final release. Let's hope that M$ is not going to simply drop support to older hardware. I have a feeling that they are...


My 1st impression on Win8? The Metro interface is f**king retarded! XD LOL. Also am I the only one that hated the "new" and overused blue color screens. You see the new blue theme throughout the installation, in the new OS selection screen at bootup, and of course in the new BSoDs. It's so monochrome and boring. And M$ will be using the blue color for their new logo too... sigh. I like the red / green / blue / yellow flag logo much better. http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2...-logo.aspx

Dr. Peaceful Mar 07, 2012, 11:43pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Let me explain a bit further why I dislike the Metro interface.
1. After all these years of advances in 3D graphics, Metro brought us back to 2D: flat and square! It's just uninteresting to look at. Yes, I understand it's aimed for touch screen tablets and mobile devices. But for a regular PC, it's just look like going backward in technology.

2. There is a huge disconnect between Metro and the regular Desktop. For one, you can not see both at the same screen. You can only see one or the other. For two, some applications are not shared. For example, the IE you open in Metro is different from the one you open in Desktop. Another example, some of the Metro apps are not shown in the Desktop Task Bar when they are opened, even though you can see them in Alt-Tab or the Task Manager. Third example, the PC Settings in Metro is not share with settings in the traditional Control Panel.

3. The controls in Metro is not really user friendly, especially with traditional keyboard and mouse. A lot of the things are WAY hidden from the eyes. Such as the right click to show All App in the bottom. Such as right click on an app icon to reveal more settings related to the app. Such as clicking on the right bottom corner to reveal the hidden task bar on the right edge. I've also found a glitch: after you open (right edge task bar -> Settings -> More PC Settings) the white background PC Settings screen, there is NO WAY to close it, other than Alt-F4! There is still much to work on to refine the interface from M$. Also as a user, there is quite a bit of learning curve to get use to the interface.

In my opinion, I think it will be better off for M$ to have 2 separate OS's. One for mobile / tablet devices. One for traditional PCs. The one for PC's should be fully utilizing 3D technology to make the GUI more intriguing. Also have a more advanced file system for better security, performance and redundancy. And last, get rid of the registry once for all!!


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