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Ddanz May 09, 2012, 02:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey guys I JUST installed my GTX570 today and I set my WoW settings to ultra but I am not getting the full 60fps.. Whats going on here? or is that normal? (I hope not... -.-)


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Afrow UK May 09, 2012, 08:57am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Try changing the vertical sync setting.

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Ddanz May 09, 2012, 01:52pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Afrow UK said:
Try changing the vertical sync setting.


Hehe how do I do that? :P

mothow May 09, 2012, 07:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 09, 2012, 07:32pm EDT

 
>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Might wanna OC your Intel Core i5 760 2.8GHz that will help and turn off Vsnyc.

short guide how you would disable it in Windows 7..

http://windows7themes.net/how-to-disable-vsync-in-windows-7.html


Disable Vsync for NVIDIA graphic cards (NCP)
1. Right-click on desktop, click on NVIDIA Control Panel
2. Uncollapse 3D Settings
3. Click on Manage 3D Settings
4. Scroll down to the bottom and click on the text Use the 3D application setting
5. From the dropdown select Force Vsync off (this will make sure that no applications can use Vsync and that it will be disabled even if a Vsync requires it)



Since the ATI and NVIDIA Control Panel tools are constantly updated this will be different in the future. If you can follow this tutorial step-by-step simply check out all the options in the Control Panel until you either find Vsync or Vertical Refresh

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Ddanz May 09, 2012, 08:35pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
mothows honeybadger said:
Might wanna OC your Intel Core i5 760 2.8GHz that will help and turn off Vsnyc.

short guide how you would disable it in Windows 7..

http://windows7themes.net/how-to-disable-vsync-in-windows-7.html


Disable Vsync for NVIDIA graphic cards (NCP)
1. Right-click on desktop, click on NVIDIA Control Panel
2. Uncollapse 3D Settings
3. Click on Manage 3D Settings
4. Scroll down to the bottom and click on the text Use the 3D application setting
5. From the dropdown select Force Vsync off (this will make sure that no applications can use Vsync and that it will be disabled even if a Vsync requires it)



Since the ATI and NVIDIA Control Panel tools are constantly updated this will be different in the future. If you can follow this tutorial step-by-step simply check out all the options in the Control Panel until you either find Vsync or Vertical Refresh


Awesome I've turned off Vsync is there anything else I can change or do to up my graphics performance? I am abit skeptical about OCing my CPU, wouldn't I have heating issues later on? Also I heard that OCing kills the life on your CPU..

Meats_Of_Evil May 09, 2012, 08:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
First of all, what did you use to measure your frames per seconds? Also, how much you're getting. The in-game options on WoW should have the option for V-sync, if you want to surpass the refresh rate of your monitor then turn that feature off.

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Ddanz May 09, 2012, 09:09pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Meats_Of_Evil said:
First of all, what did you use to measure your frames per seconds? Also, how much you're getting. The in-game options on WoW should have the option for V-sync, if you want to surpass the refresh rate of your monitor then turn that feature off.


Oh just the in-game fps, I'm getting anywhere from 55 to 64. It's just not as smooth as I thought it would be... Maybe it's my old crap monitor? Samsung SyncMaster 931B? lol

Meats_Of_Evil May 09, 2012, 10:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Well, you should try and ask someone else who has similar specs to yours and see how much frames they're getting. As I understand WoW maxed can be very demanding on certain parts of the game where the world is very full. If you know you're not getting the supposed amount of frame rate then post back and we'll give more suggestions.

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Ddanz May 09, 2012, 11:21pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Meats_Of_Evil said:
Well, you should try and ask someone else who has similar specs to yours and see how much frames they're getting. As I understand WoW maxed can be very demanding on certain parts of the game where the world is very full. If you know you're not getting the supposed amount of frame rate then post back and we'll give more suggestions.


Ok, so I've been watching my fps and I've seen it go high as 125 and as low as 24 in a heavly populated area.. so yeah, not sure. Would OC'ing my CPU hurt it?

Meats_Of_Evil May 10, 2012, 02:41am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Actually, overclocking both your card and your cpu will only improve your frames. Also, since you have 16gb you should disable Virtual Memory, you'll probably notice faster loading times in everything, in case WoW needs Virtual Memory enabled it will inform you and just enable it for the certain apps or games that need it, currently the only game I have which needs virtual memory enabled for some reason is Dawn of War 2 and its expansions.

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Ddanz May 10, 2012, 03:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Meats_Of_Evil said:
Actually, overclocking both your card and your cpu will only improve your frames. Also, since you have 16gb you should disable Virtual Memory, you'll probably notice faster loading times in everything, in case WoW needs Virtual Memory enabled it will inform you and just enable it for the certain apps or games that need it, currently the only game I have which needs virtual memory enabled for some reason is Dawn of War 2 and its expansions.


Oh so it would just be actual numbers than performance right? or would there be a performance upgrade after overclocking? Oh ok, so I will go ahead tonight and turn off

Meats_Of_Evil May 10, 2012, 04:00pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Yes, thats what I meant, overclocking = better performance almost every time. The Core i5's are excellent overclockers and you'll have no trouble reaching 3 or 4ghz speeds. Now I assume you know how to overclock and test for stability, so I'll leave you to it.

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Ddanz May 10, 2012, 04:42pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Meats_Of_Evil said:
Yes, thats what I meant, overclocking = better performance almost every time. The Core i5's are excellent overclockers and you'll have no trouble reaching 3 or 4ghz speeds. Now I assume you know how to overclock and test for stability, so I'll leave you to it.


Hehe let's just say that I have NEVER OC'ed anything before :P


Also for disabling VRam that would be done by going to System Properties, Advanced, Settings under Performance, Advanced, Change under Virtual Memory, then uncheck Automatically manage paging file size for all drives, then....?? lol

Ddanz May 10, 2012, 05:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 10, 2012, 05:20pm EDT

 
>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Here is a more detailed spec of my rig...

Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W
Thermaltake Silent 1156 CLP0552 92mm
G.SKILL Ripjaws 16GB (4x4GB) PC3 12800
Antec TruePower New TP-750 Blue 750W Continuous Power
ASUS Maximus III Formula LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX
EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB

Meats_Of_Evil May 10, 2012, 07:07pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Ddanz said:
Meats_Of_Evil said:
Yes, thats what I meant, overclocking = better performance almost every time. The Core i5's are excellent overclockers and you'll have no trouble reaching 3 or 4ghz speeds. Now I assume you know how to overclock and test for stability, so I'll leave you to it.


Hehe let's just say that I have NEVER OC'ed anything before :P


Also for disabling VRam that would be done by going to System Properties, Advanced, Settings under Performance, Advanced, Change under Virtual Memory, then uncheck Automatically manage paging file size for all drives, then....?? lol


Exactly! I think you need to restart after that.

Now as for overclocking its as easy as cooking. Usually on Intel cpu's you just raise the FSB (Front-side bus) until you reach your desired clock speed, I assume that your mobo does a pretty good job on keeping v-core levels automatically so I don't think you'll need to worry about that unless your system becomes unstable. This is all done through the bios of course, just press delete when you Turn your PC on and you'll be inside the Bios menu.

Here's a guide just in case you get a little lost:
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/processors/...ng-1040234

As for the gpu, download this:
http://www.evga.com/precision/

It's a tool made for EVga cards which monitor your core, mem, shaders, temps, lets you adjust fan speed, voltage settings and a lot of other stuff, it is a tremendously useful app to have installed, I personally have it set to always show the Gpu's temperature in the icon bar.

To overclock just raise the Core clock slightly until you reach your desired speed, the same goes for mem clock and shader speed. I suggest you search for GTX570 overclocks and read a bit on other forums to see how much speed other people are getting out of these cards, that will give you a nice idea on how far you can go, but note that you may not always reach the same amount as them.

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Ddanz May 10, 2012, 07:18pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?

Exactly! I think you need to restart after that.


I don't need to add a minimum or maximum right? I just keep it on "System managed size?"


Now as for overclocking its as easy as cooking. Usually on Intel cpu's you just raise the FSB (Front-side bus) until you reach your desired clock speed, I assume that your mobo does a pretty good job on keeping v-core levels automatically so I don't think you'll need to worry about that unless your system becomes unstable. This is all done through the bios of course, just press delete when you Turn your PC on and you'll be inside the Bios menu.

Here's a guide just in case you get a little lost:
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/processors/...ng-1040234


Hrm.. is there a good speed I can raise my cpu to without it becoming unstable or give me problems?

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Edited: May 11, 2012, 12:04am EDT

 
>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Ddanz said:

Exactly! I think you need to restart after that.


I don't need to add a minimum or maximum right? I just keep it on "System managed size?"


Now as for overclocking its as easy as cooking. Usually on Intel cpu's you just raise the FSB (Front-side bus) until you reach your desired clock speed, I assume that your mobo does a pretty good job on keeping v-core levels automatically so I don't think you'll need to worry about that unless your system becomes unstable. This is all done through the bios of course, just press delete when you Turn your PC on and you'll be inside the Bios menu.

Here's a guide just in case you get a little lost:
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/processors/...ng-1040234


Hrm.. is there a good speed I can raise my cpu to without it becoming unstable or give me problems?



To disable virtual ram you have to set it to No Paging File, what this will do is completely depend on your ram to run applications instead of assigning a portion of the hard drive for the task, you should notice an increase in the OS response time and even in loading games or opening programs.

I've read the i5's can reach 4.0ghz without problems but there's always an exception and you may reach more or less. The only thing that will happen if the system is unstable is that it will crash certain apps more frequently, freeze the PC, or give you a BSOD, I believe Windows 7 is the most stable platform for overclocking and even if any of the above happen all you need to do is restart the PC, go into the Bios and tune the frequency down a little bit, its that easy. Read the guide I gave you and try to familiarize yourself with what they're saying, I kid you not its a very easy thing to do. Check out my PC specs in my profile, this PC is 4 years old but since its overclocked to the max it still kicks ass and lets me run every game on the market, sure I can't max out the latest games but all that will change after I upgrade my beloved 8800gt to a 6xx series.

Don't let fear hold you back, you got some quality components there and they should handle almost anything that can go wrong, if by some obscure chance something gets fried then its a clear indication that the hardware was not going to last much under a stressful environment and you should RMA it ASAP.

I'll give you an example of how good these brands are.

Intel:
I've had this Q6600 for 4 years now and I was one of the lucky few who got the SLACR model which were a later revision that ran cooler than its predecessors, after a week of having it installed I overclocked it to 3.2ghz without a problem, sure I can go higher if I raise the core voltage but the temperature will be too high for my Zalman 9500 (old as hell but still does the job) too handle.

Evga:
I've bought the most legendary card of all time when it came out almost 4 years ago, the 8800gt, it was praised because it gave performance comparable to a 8800GTX (back then the king of cards) for a reasonable price, I payed close to $270 for it and it still works magnificently, even after the most stressful conditions like running games at 107C temps like nothing. I live in Puerto Rico and the climate is very hot in the summer and I have pushed this card beyond its limits and it still hasn't given me any artifacts or other problems, oh and its overclocked as high as it can go.

So yeah your system will be fine.

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Ddanz May 11, 2012, 04:44am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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To disable virtual ram you have to set it to No Paging File, what this will do is completely depend on your ram to run applications instead of assigning a portion of the hard drive for the task, you should notice an increase in the OS response time and even in loading games or opening programs.

I've read the i5's can reach 4.0ghz without problems but there's always an exception and you may reach more or less. The only thing that will happen if the system is unstable is that it will crash certain apps more frequently, freeze the PC, or give you a BSOD, I believe Windows 7 is the most stable platform for overclocking and even if any of the above happen all you need to do is restart the PC, go into the Bios and tune the frequency down a little bit, its that easy. Read the guide I gave you and try to familiarize yourself with what they're saying, I kid you not its a very easy thing to do. Check out my PC specs in my profile, this PC is 4 years old but since its overclocked to the max it still kicks ass and lets me run every game on the market, sure I can't max out the latest games but all that will change after I upgrade my beloved 8800gt to a 6xx series.

Don't let fear hold you back, you got some quality components there and they should handle almost anything that can go wrong, if by some obscure chance something gets fried then its a clear indication that the hardware was not going to last much under a stressful environment and you should RMA it ASAP.

I'll give you an example of how good these brands are.

Intel:
I've had this Q6600 for 4 years now and I was one of the lucky few who got the SLACR model which were a later revision that ran cooler than its predecessors, after a week of having it installed I overclocked it to 3.2ghz without a problem, sure I can go higher if I raise the core voltage but the temperature will be too high for my Zalman 9500 (old as hell but still does the job) too handle.

Evga:
I've bought the most legendary card of all time when it came out almost 4 years ago, the 8800gt, it was praised because it gave performance comparable to a 8800GTX (back then the king of cards) for a reasonable price, I payed close to $270 for it and it still works magnificently, even after the most stressful conditions like running games at 107C temps like nothing. I live in Puerto Rico and the climate is very hot in the summer and I have pushed this card beyond its limits and it still hasn't given me any artifacts or other problems, oh and its overclocked as high as it can go.

So yeah your system will be fine.


Ah, I see ok cool! here is what my CPU looks like with the overclock let me know If I should change anything, so that it will be stable and I will not have any problems

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii244/danx213/OverclockInfo.png

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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Nice OC.Those temps are ok if the max temp is at 100% usage.But you might wanna see if you can lower the voltage a tad bit that might bring the temps inline a little more.Id be a little more comportable with mid 40's.Max temps look OK though since thats 100% load which you very rarely hit

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mothows honeybadger said:
Nice OC.Those temps are ok if the max temp is at 100% usage.But you might wanna see if you can lower the voltage a tad bit that might bring the temps inline a little more.Id be a little more comportable with mid 40's.Max temps look OK though since thats 100% load which you very rarely hit


Haha thanks, not bad for a first time I guess ;P
Hrm instead of lowering the voltage I was going to just get another cpu fan.. Like the H80? Perhaps? To bring down the temp a little bit

Meats_Of_Evil May 15, 2012, 01:41am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GTX570 not getting full 60fps...?
Well you can easily remedy the situation by lowering the voltage, as the auto-voltage on motherboards always exaggerate the values drastically.

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