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micro May 10, 2012, 02:48am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Where do i get the rubber backing for metal/aluminum mouse pads, and what is it called?
Does anyone have a link?

I have searched and searched and all that i have found thus far is neoprene.
The problem with this is the neoprene is soft and spongy and not like what you find on Steel series or Razer mouse pads. Also there is no texture to the materials i am finding.


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john albrich May 10, 2012, 12:13pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
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Only thing comes to mind is one of the various spray-on rubber/latex coating products. A brush-applied coating probably wouldn't yield the best results...but it might do.

For the texturing...perhaps impressing it into the coating shortly before it fully cures using a screen/mesh of some sort?

There are also polymer coatings with a lower coefficient of friction, so you'd have to be sure what you're getting (I think you wouldn't want those in this application).



An alternative to the entire bottom surface of the pad being a textured rubber surface, might be to apply a substrate material with multiple holes cut in it to allow insetting rubber "feet" (perhaps a grid pattern every few inches?). The substrate provides continuous support over the entire bottom surface of the pad, while the inset rubber "feet" provide the friction needed to keep it from freely moving about. The substrate doesn't have to provide any friction...it's just there to provide a means to inset the "feet" so the entire bottom side contacting the desk is a flat surface (no rubber "feet" poking out).


edit to add:
of course these approaches assumed you were talking about repairing/modifying an existing pad, and aren't suitable if you're going into the mouse-pad business.

micro May 11, 2012, 10:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
Thanks for the input John.

I also have had those thoughts, I am looking for the more professional backing,like you would find from razer,

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Dr. Peaceful May 11, 2012, 01:04pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
micro said:
Where do i get the rubber backing for metal/aluminum mouse pads, and what is it called?
Does anyone have a link?
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According to Steel Series, it's called "Aperture Science Propulsion Gel", see below link.
Link: http://steelseries.com/us/products/games/portal2/steelseries-q...-2-edition
"The surface is coated in Aperture Science Propulsion Gel enabling you to achieve mouse speeds you never thought possible."

You can get some of these gels here: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/collectibles/e970/


XD ;)

G. G. May 14, 2012, 10:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
micro,

what I am hearing is that you want to find something that you can use to replace the worn rubber/non-slip padding that is on the under side of your mouse pad that grips to the table???

if so.... you can get some of this stuff - http://compostablegoods.com/images/earthweave_rug_gripper.jpg at your local walmart in the kitchen department. Maybe in the household section too..

Basically it is a sheet of rubbery material that when you put it between two surfaces.... the object does not move. It works really well. What you can do is buy a sheet of this stuff, cut out the size you need for your pad, and just glue it to the pad.


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micro May 16, 2012, 01:40pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
Thanks for the replies thus far.

I have made my own mouse pads that blow Razer and steel series out of the water in every aspect when it comes to gaming, slickness/drag, accuracy, durability and no wear on mouse feet or pads. I have yet to see another mouse pad done this way. It works on all optical and all laser mice, unlike the other brands around. I have already gone through the prototype stage and am now working on patents. All that i am lacking on the hardware end is a good rubber backing. I find rubber backing that is okay, but is not near the quality of what is on a gaming pad, plus it is about $3 per pad so far.

I am not going to go into details of what i am using, but i will say that they are aluminum.

I have been searching off and on for months to find a good backing, short of calling Razer to find out where they get it from. But i am getting to that point.

@Dr. řaz
I have not been able to find the rubber backing on the link that you posted.

@GG
That kitchen cabinet backing is just not quality enough. That is the first material i used to get me by.

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Dr. Peaceful May 16, 2012, 01:56pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
micro said:
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@Dr. řaz
I have not been able to find the rubber backing on the link that you posted.
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It was a joke from my part, sorry didn't mean to mislead you. If you copy and paste the ThinkGeek link to a browser, it brings you to a collectable item for Portal game fanatics. ;)

Anyway, I really don't know much about rubber products, here is may be one of reliable rubber vendors you can look into: http://www.warco.com/

Good luck and wish you success on the mouse pad invention venture!

john albrich May 16, 2012, 02:05pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Since you're now talking about intellectual property, I advise NOT communicating with any mousepad representatives/employees until you have filed your patents...especially if you are interested in international patents.

You not only risk unintentional disclosure of your ideas to them, but open up a hole that can be later exploited by them claiming you stole their ideas during your discussions. If they claim even ONE element is theirs you'll be screwed...and it is possible they do coincidentally have something sufficiently similar in development such pre-filing talks could cause problems for you.

While your independent creation might be provable at some point if you've kept very good records, in the meantime legal wrangling can keep you from getting your product to market in a timely manner, and/or defending yourself can weaken your cash position which could possibly force you to drop the project as unsustainable.

Some competitors are NOT nice people. Even trusted partners can become back-stabbing pieces of crap.


Also remember that the US patent law buffer "you have 1 year to file patent after public disclosure" doesn't apply to all countries. Some other countries' IP laws stipulate that any public disclosure prior to filing will kill your patent attempts in those countries.

Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) are your friend.

Dr. Peaceful May 16, 2012, 02:19pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
Good point John! Micro, I think it would be safer to discuss with a rubber vendor, than with an actual mouse pad manufacturer, since all they are interested is to sell you raw materials.

I think one of these sheet rubber would be a good fit for your purpose: http://www.warco.com/sheet-rubber/

Do more research on those, perhaps call up the vendor for suggestions, and perhaps you need to sample / experiment a few of them to see which works the best.

Reason † May 16, 2012, 07:01pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
just posting to say: interested. I have a Ngen C4 that I like, but I'm always interested in newer stuff.

One question; I've heard that metal pads tend to suffer from condensation. has that been an issue in your testing?

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micro May 17, 2012, 02:25am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Where to get rubber backing for mouse pads?
@ John, thanks for the heads up on the patent info.

@Dr. řaz Thanks for the link, i had not ran into that site yet.
I have samples from a few places, but they are still not what i am looking for.

@Reason
I have not really had any condensation issues at all as far as moisture, nor have i seen this with the teflon coated steel series.I do notice that every two hours or so my palm won't slide as well, but simply washing my hands fixes this, or even washing the mouse pad and i can game a lot longer.Yes, my mouse pad is easily washable, unlike the steel series. The Razer is just sandblased and corse, so I found the pad so bad i didn't test it for that long.

The metal is often colder, or feels colder than room temperature though. This is just the nature of the beast.

I believe the PTFE used on the c4 is about the same as used on the steel series.

I plan on selling in the USA at first, but depending on business growth, that will determine international sales. I currently own my own local business, but am finding there to be a lot more to it than i am used to.

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