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Jonathan Latter Apr 01, 2013, 02:27am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi

I have a 3 year old PC that I'm not quite ready to overhaul yet.. But my 8800 grfx card is now hitting minimum spec (even though it does play Bioshock Infinite on high rather well). My motherboard has only PCI-e 2 slots so the newest card I could get would be a GT 630 I believe.. is it worth it?

My PC consists of
Sabertooth x58
i7 3.2 GHz
6GB Ram
and the Nvidia 8800

Thanks for any help


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Stevie P Apr 01, 2013, 11:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
I wouldn't if I was you, the GT 630 is bottom of arrange card, you got currently an old top of range card, big difference, I have myself an old 8800 GT card I'm selling on eBay right now.

Your mobo should support most current graphics cards on the market, just make sure when buying new they are backwards compatible with the PCI-E x16 version 2.

I recently stuck in a HD 7950 and that worked fine under version 2, although it needed to be returned as it was faulty, stuck using my old GTX 560 at moment.

I wouldn't bother with anything less than GTX 650 TI or HD 7770 to see any real difference in game play, but you could save some money by picking up a second hand GTX 560, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck.


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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
Seconded. It's important to remember that it usually takes several generations before newer low-end will compete with older high-end.

Also, I wouldn't bother to replace it until you need to. I had an 8800GTX that I didn't replace until I couldn't run a specific game.

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Meats_Of_Evil Apr 01, 2013, 03:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
It will perform worse. Gt 630 is not a gaming card, tell us your budget and we'll suggest something nice in that price range. Although depending at which resolution you play it might not be worth it.

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Jonathan Latter Apr 01, 2013, 04:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
Thanks for the replies. Glad I didn't go ahead with that purchase before asking.

It's not so much my budget rather than (I thought) that my motherboard could only support PCI-e 2 (the GT 630 is the last card to be PI-e 2 from what I can see). Not sure how or where to check if later PCI-e 3 cards are backwards compatible with the x58.

Since my PC is getting on, I don't want to spend a whole lot on a graphics card only to find the rest needs upgrading not too far down the line.. Having said that, CPU's have slowed down somewhat.

I was looking to spend less than 100 BUT if you guys can point me to a card that will prolong the life of the PC even longer then I will go higher.

Thanks again

PS. Assuming there is a PCI-e 3 card that is suitable.. How much of a performance hit would I be taking putting it into a PCI-e 2 slot?

Reason Apr 01, 2013, 05:18pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
Backwards compatibility is not an issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_3.0

You'll be hard pressed to saturate PCI v2 bandwidth. It shouldn't be an issue. I have a 6870 on an Asus P5B, runs stuff fine.

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Stevie P Apr 02, 2013, 11:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?

mothow Apr 02, 2013, 05:09pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 02, 2013, 07:02pm EDT

 
>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
Id get a 2GB 650Ti Boost..Dont worry about pci-e 2.0 and 3.0 your board willl work with either type card.Then Later on you could get a second one when u upgrade that mobo + cpu and ram and go SLI.
The Regular 650Ti doesnt support SLI

http://www.evga.com/articles/00737/ $179.99

Or if you would like to give AMD a shot the new 7790 is badass and comes in 1GB and 2GB flavors

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angryhippy Apr 03, 2013, 03:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
I agree. The 650tiBoost isn't actually a modded 650ti but a whole new animal supposedly that's supposed to be top of it's price to performance niche. The 128bit bandwidth spec though is a little disappointing. I'd prefer a 256 or at the least a 192bit.

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john albrich Apr 03, 2013, 06:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
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While what I say below may be obvious to many, some folks get fooled by marketing claims and end up disappointed by a "compatible" purchase. Re: "compatibility"...

New Functionality/Features
Although the 2.x compatible features on the 3.x card generally will work fine, keep in mind that some or all of the newer 3.x features on the new card won't be functional. As a result, don't expect the exclusive-to-3.x features of the card to add that new functionality to a 2.x pci-e motherboard system.

General Compatibility
Also, while 3.x cards should be downwards compatible with 2.x pci-e motherboards, keep in mind that we often see less than 100% downward compatibility on numerous products that claim "downwards compatible with...". Compatibility applies to different aspects as well: mechanical, electrical, thermal, firmware, and software. So a particular device may be fully compatible in one aspect, but incompatible (or provide reduced functionality) in another. For example, a "compatible" new video card might require more power and use an 8-pin power connector instead of a 6-pin connector. So it can come as a surprise to someone expecting to get the "compatible" card and be instantly up and running only to find out an power adapter (or even a new PSU) is needed.

Specific Compatibility
Sometimes a particular model card won't work in a particular model motherboard. So, when you have selected a possible replacement card, before placing an order try searching for simultaneous entries of that model card and your model motherboard on a search engine. If there is a significant compatibility issue, other users likely would have reported it somewhere. (There are even instances where a particular 2.x model card doesn't work in a particular model 2.x pci-e motherboard, so this shouldn't be a surprise.)

mothow Apr 03, 2013, 08:40pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
John while that maybe true.I havent had any trouble with this so far.

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Jonathan Latter Apr 03, 2013, 09:58pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
Hey guys, thanks very much for the info and opinions.. I understand more than I did put it that way.. I'll hang on for now and see what things are like down the road.. I will probably end up upgrading the MB, CPU, Graphics card and memory.. Just to be safe of any bottlenecks.

Thanks again

john albrich Apr 03, 2013, 10:23pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
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mothow said:
John while that maybe true.I havent had any trouble with this.

Many users won't see an given functional incompatibility with a 3.x card, even when it exists, as it can take a specific usage and specific hardware and software environment for an incompatibility/reduced functionality to be visible in the "real-world".

It can also require the user to be actively expecting and to know exactly what to look for as some specific elements of functionality can be obscure and/or masked esp when using lower-level hardware/software (e.g. enhanced 3D functionality/performance).

mothow Apr 04, 2013, 09:03pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Worth upgrading my 8800 to a GT 630?
john albrich said:
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mothow said:
John while that maybe true.I havent had any trouble with this.

Many users won't see an given functional incompatibility with a 3.x card, even when it exists, as it can take a specific usage and specific hardware and software environment for an incompatibility/reduced functionality to be visible in the "real-world".

It can also require the user to be actively expecting and to know exactly what to look for as some specific elements of functionality can be obscure and/or masked esp when using lower-level hardware/software (e.g. enhanced 3D functionality/performance).

Yeah i would expect that with new cards and older motherboards and operating systems.I guess its up to each person to figure out weither these limits are gonna be a limiting factor for what they need

anyway here is a review of the GTX 650 Ti Boost vs GTX 650Ti OC vs GTX 660 OC vs 7790 vs 7770 vs 7850

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1704/pg3/palit-geforce-g...ology.html

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