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martin rose Jun 03, 2003, 05:48am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Got a problem, and could do with some advice. This motherboard picks up the AMD 2600 as a 1.6 (should be 2.1?). Computer works fine, but is there a solution to the problem?

Been in touch with Chaintech, who say the 2600 is the ONE Amd processor which is not compatible with this board!

Should I upgrade the processor to a 2800, I have a link to a bios update from Chaintech. Should the supplier of the chip/board take the 2600 back as it was wrongly supplied?

Any help gratefully recieved.

Martin UK


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Wildwood Jun 03, 2003, 05:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Martin, UK

Go into your BIOS and set it up according to your manual. Your FSB should be set at 133MHz if it's a 2600/266FSB. Or 166MHz if it's a 2600/333FSB. And don't forget to set the memory to the correct frequency. And set your CPU monitor to 70 centigrade.
If you RMA that proc, they'll probably charge you a 15% restocking fee because there's nothing wrong with it.


martin rose Jun 03, 2003, 06:37am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Josh

Thanks for that, but im still worried that ChainTech support say the 2600 isnt compatible with this board. Wont it make the computer unstable or anything (I'm not very technically minded!).


Martin

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Wildwood Jun 03, 2003, 07:14am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
I honestly don't understand how your motherboard can support an AXP 2800+ but not support an AXP 2600+. There is no difference in the two processors other than the multiplier.
That support person should be removed from their cozy little desk and flogged by a female schizophrenic on PMS and no drugs to control her, after she was told that the support person was the alien who attacked(aka 'probed') her repeatedly when she was a child. Thus making him responsible for her current state of mental un-health.
(Sorry about the run-on sentence.)
Your board should be stable. It uses the Via KT333 chipset which is a very good chipset. Set up the BIOS properly and relax. You have a very nice motherboard and processor combination. The only instability in this conversation in my equalibrium and the female schizophrenic.

Enjoy your life. It's the only one you have until the next life.


CJ Wilson Jun 03, 2003, 07:31am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Question: is the 2600+ a barton Core ? not the good ol' fashion Throughbread ? although I think the latter post was balls dead on... its something worth looking at ... another thing .. try a bios update ... alot of the newer processors arent"compatible" unless there is an update...
my 2.5Cents plus tax and interest
muchPEACE

tom holz Jul 04, 2003, 01:27am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Hi! I have exact the same problem - no way to get 166 mhz out my motherboard Chaintech 7VJL Apogee - 133 mhz runs ok (- but just 1.6 - )so my 512 MB 333 DDR Ram seems to be OK and stabil
after I set the right jumper to 166 Mhz my computer even doesnŽt start anymore!

Wildwood Jul 04, 2003, 02:17am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Tom Holz-

Do you have a processor that supports a 333MHz FSB?

If so, you might consider looking to see if you need a BIOS update.


martin rose Jul 04, 2003, 04:33pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Tom, i've got the problem sorted now. I can set the clock to 166 in the bios. The chip is then picked up as a 2.08 GHz (near enough, should be 2.13).

If you go to start/run and type dxdiag you should see that your processor is picked up as a 2.13. It may say this even if it says its a 1.6 in my computer/properties. Try it and see.

Hope that helps a bit, im not a tecky !

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1GB DDR2 SDRAM
250GB Seagate HD
Rodney Armstrong Jul 04, 2003, 06:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
What the Tech Support person probably meant to say, was that the Processor does not Auto Detect properly. But if you set the settings manually, it should work just fine.

martin rose Aug 13, 2003, 08:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Here we go again ! Started this thread few weeks ago.

I Had sorted this little problem out with the help from you clever people.

Comp did keep crashing, till I found out the wrong memory was installed. So upgraded to 512 pc2700 333 last week. Totally stopped the crashes, but for some reason knocked my processor back to a 1.6 (was 2.1 !). Ideally I want it to run at 2.1.

Tried changing in BIOS from 133 to 166, wont have it.

Changed the correct Jumper from 1-2 to 2-3 (JP31) for 166 setting, and similar to toms post (above) PC wont start ! Must be a problem with the Chaintech Apogee I suppose.

Have mentioned this before (thanks Ray !), but problem persists with this setup.

Can ANyone give more help on this ?

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Lupin The 3rd Apr 26, 2004, 10:32am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Same problem different mobo!
I have the ECS K7TVA3 with AMD 2600 and PC2700 ram. When i try to set the CPU frequency jumper to 166mhz it doesn't start. I can only set it to 100mhz and 133mhz. This really sucks because I can't get my speed that I'm suppose to have which is 2.1ghz. I'm really getting frustrated though. I have a 300W psu which I know is enough to handle the speeds. I contacted ECS and am going to call FRY's electronics too. I might have to take it in and get it tested. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!

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martin rose Apr 26, 2004, 01:48pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Lupin,

Firstly, are you 100% sure you have a 2600 with 333fsb, or the earlier 266 variety ?

The chaintech mobo problem has now been completely solved, Got it RMA'd and they sent out a new revision board. Now posts as a 2.1 and I have it set to 166 X 12.5 in the Bios. And it posted first time with the jumpers set on the right pins (as it should !).

All I can say is email your mobo manufacturers support. That's what I did, and eventually they agreed to swop the board. Be persistent but polite ! With Chaintech, it was their fault though.

Whatever, good luck and let me know how you get on.

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1GB DDR2 SDRAM
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Lupin The 3rd Apr 26, 2004, 02:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Unfortunately I'm not possitively sure that it's the 333mhz, I do know that it's a Barton processor. I really hope that it's not the earlier version. How fast is the cpu speed on the earlier version anyway? The guy at Fry's told me that there is a possibility that the generic RAM might have some kind of conflict. I'm taking it back today.

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Jim Harr Apr 26, 2004, 03:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Hi Lupin
K7TVA3 or K7VTA3?
K7VTA3 as far as I understand this board only supports 266FSB on a K266A chipset. However I could be wrong if there are later versions of the board that I am unfamiliar with.
Which Version board have you got?
As for the CPU (266 or 333FSB) you have use this to identify it.
http://mp3.zonebg.com/cpu/cpu.php
http://www.thetechboard.com/tutorials/athlon_xp.php

martin rose Apr 26, 2004, 03:26pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
OK, if its definintely a BARTON core, then it is for sure a 333fsb with 512 L2 cache (the Thoroughbred 2600 has 256 L2 cache).

I wouldn't have thought it was your memory, more likely a fault with the board. My previous Chaintech Apogee would POST at 100 or 133, but not 166 ! Can you get the supplier to either swop or check your mobo? Does it say in the manual that it supports a 333fsb CPU ? Your Barton should be posting at just over 2GHz I believe (someone will let you know the exact figure). If it only posts at 133 set in the BIOS, I bet its something like 1.7GHz + or -.

Don't be happy with that.

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Geforce 6700 XL
1GB DDR2 SDRAM
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Lupin The 3rd Apr 26, 2004, 04:10pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Actually I called Fry's and they did say that it suppose to run at 333mhz and that it could be my generic ram.I'm going to take it back over there and have them test it for me. If the mobo is bad that sux because I will have to take it out and switch it while I'm there!

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alex chernak Sep 14, 2004, 10:00am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
I'm having the same problem
2200+ sempron
2700 333 256mb ram
k7vta3 rev 6, even though the box said rev 8? ecs motherboard
120 gig WD harddrive
128 rage agp vid card
430 watt PS
If I set the jumpers to 166 it wont post or it will freeze on post
It will only turn on and run reliably at 133, just a little slow. at 133 the cpu will show to be 1.2ghz, even though its supposed to be a 1.5. does anyone have any ideas?????

tom holz Sep 16, 2004, 12:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
hi! after upgrading bios, trying everything to make the board run correctly, talking hours with friends about the subject, talking with my lokal hardware dealer who had also the same problem with the chaintech board iŽm sorry to say just use another board.

Leonidas Vouros Feb 19, 2005, 01:28pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
SORRY TO DISSAPOINT YOU BUT:
7VJL DEDICATED AS M101 (NEAR LAT PCI SLOT) SUPPORT FSB 333 ATHLONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7VJL S 102 DONNOT DO SO...............
IT IS OFFICIAL FORM CHAINTECH EUROPE
WHAT A LOSS OF MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IMAGINE THAT MY OLD 2000 VIA KT 133A QDI KINETIZ 7E SUPPORTS ATHLON XP UP TO 2200+ AND MY 2003 VJL SUPPORTS ONLY UP TO 2600+
READ BELOW AND SPREAD THE ANSWER......

Dear Sir:

The info provided indicates that this board supports up to a 2600@266 max.


Yours sincerely,
Chaintech Technical Support

Chaintech Europe
Coenecoop 620
2741 PV WADDINXVEEN
THE NETHERLANDS

* Phone: +31-(0)182-623960
* Fax: +31-(0)182-623964
* E-mail: support@chaintech.nl < mailto:support@chaintech.nl>
* Web: < http://www.chaintech.dk/>


-----Original Message-----
From: Leonidas Vouros [mailto:lvouros@ath.forthnet.gr]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:42 PM
To: Chaintech Technical Support
Subject: RE: New Required from Chaintech Web

I think I SAW A S102- 310 CODE NEAR THE LAST PCI SLOT WRITTEN ON THE PCB BOARD.....SORRY I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ELSE. JUST GIVE ME THE WORST AS WELL AS THE BESTCASE SENARIO. I THINK IT SUPPORTS 166MHZ (333) ATHLONS AS THERE ARE JUMPERS FOR 166MHZ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Chaintech Technical Support [mailto:support@chaintech.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:15 AM
To: lvouros@ath.forthnet.gr
Subject: RE: New Required from Chaintech Web

Dear Sir:

In order to answer this question I will need you to look on the PCB of the motherboard for a designation stating either S102... Or M101... Relate to me which one it is.

tom holz Feb 21, 2005, 12:55am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: HELP AMD 2600 XP only 1.6 with CHAINTECH 7VJL Apogee
Thanks for your info - > as we see often: things arenŽt as they try to look like.
My new MSI Motherboard is running perfect, without one error since the change and IŽll not will return to CH........


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