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Bob Pearl Feb 27, 2014, 05:38pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have an old amd 2800 custom built pc
Has 1g ram 2 cd/rw drives and a 80g harddrive. All are IDE & a 1,44nb floppy drive.
The bios sees all of the above. Orginaly I just wanted to reinstall win vista on this thing. But as near as I can determine the bios is messed up or something close to this that runs with it. Even when I boot into the bios I only have about 30 seconds and then it locks up. When I let it boot I get the famed boot mgr not found . Ive tried all the fixes Ive found here and elsewhere. I even reformated the HD in another computer. I also tried to boot with an iso usb drive with windows and also with just partition wizard to see if I could get into the HD. Same answer no boot mgr. I tried a sata HD and a sata cd/rw drive, I can see the them both in the post but thats it. So Im pretty sure this thing is scrap unless I could possibley reflash the bios. But I dont think this can be done if I cant get past the post.

:(SO how can I flash the darn bios?????????????????????:angry:


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Bob Pearl Feb 27, 2014, 05:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: flash bios
Oh yeah it and ASROCK MB K7S8XE+
American megatrends released 11/11/2003
bios P1.40
I even installed Vista on the HD on another similar but not the same pc and then tried to get it to boot on the problem pc. Thinking if I could get it into safe mode I mght be able to do something. All i get there is the failed to start screen with the 4 choices.
Safe mode
Safe mode w/networking
Safe mode with command Prompt
Last known good configuration
Start Windows normaly

mothow Feb 28, 2014, 08:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: flash bios
try a new sata cable

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Bob Pearl Feb 28, 2014, 11:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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These are IDE drives not sata. .Ive tried all different setups with new cables
I did manage to the bios flashed today but no luck. I still get the boot mgr not found.
:( .

Dr. Peaceful Mar 01, 2014, 01:21pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2014, 01:32pm EST

 
>> Re: flash bios
From your descriptions in your 1st post, it doesn't sound like a BIOS problem, but rather a HDD problem. Either that 80GB drive's dead or starting to go dead. Another possibility, since this is the good old IDE, is that someone's been messing around with the master / slave jumper setting.

Also worth to mention, AMD 2800, presuming its Athlon XP 2800, came out around late 2002 or early 2003. That's 10 years ago! It's dinosaur age in terms of computer technology. It's also the very early days of SATA. The SATA you have it's likely SATA I, with 150MB/s transfer rate. If you intend to find a replacement SATA drive, it has to be SATA I. There might be a BIOS cap for the size of drive you use too. I've seen early BIOS with a 120GB drive size limitation.

Good luck bring back a dinosaur to life, hope you can find some old parts for replacement. ;)

Edit: From your second post, if you can see those Windows boot options, you're already past POST. Have you tried just select Safe Mode then hit Enter?


Bob Pearl Mar 02, 2014, 02:15am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanx for the reply:
You are right this thing is ancient. It is Sata I and has the transfer rate restriction. So thatís why when I put a new sata drive into it that may have caused confusion. So Im sticking with the old style IDE drive and IDE cd/dvd drives. There are two cd drives on the secondary IDE and One HD on the Primary IDE. It is set as the master drive. The two cd drives are set as Master and slave drives. When I got this thing from my daughter it was still runnin XP pro but not very well. But neither CD drive was reading anything. I wanted to install a new version of Vista but thatís when I found out the drives couldnít read the disc. So I took the HD out and reformatted it in another older PC and then put it back in the subject PC to see if that would help but no luck. I then put it back in the PC that I reformatted it in and installed Vista on it and ran it for a while without any updates not even service pac 1 Just bare basic Vista. It ran very well and I exercised the drive as much as I could to prove it was AOK .. Then I put it back in the problem pc with hopes I could get it to boot and even settle for safe mode thinking I could do a windows repair of some type. Thatís when I can get past the post to the screen that says ďfailed to startĒ and then give the 4 choices of safe mode and start normally. I ve tried them all with no success. I thought for sure the updated bios would solve the problem but no luck.
Even when I go into the bios just to look at or change the boot order I only have about 30 seconds and then it crashes and locks up so I have to do a reboot. If Im fast enough it will allow me to exit and safe the changes I make. But then back to boot mgr not found. I hate to admit defeat and not beat this thing but I donít know what else to try.:(

Dr. Peaceful Mar 02, 2014, 11:23pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: flash bios
Bob Pearl said:
... Even when I go into the bios just to look at or change the boot order I only have about 30 seconds and then it crashes and locks up so I have to do a reboot...

One thing I can think of from that description is that the BIOS chip went out of battery. There's a Lithium coin shape battery (type CR2032) that powers the BIOS chip. After 10+ years of use or lack of use, it's certainly possible it went dry. When that happens it forgets the boot orders or any other settings once you power off the PC. Easiest way to verify this is to see if the Date / Time setting in the BIOS is reset to certain default date / time value after reboot.

The fix for this is very easy, CR2032 is abundantly available in department stores. Go buy a pack, then replace the old one, done. Let's hope it's just that. If not, post back.

Naveen Goud Mar 02, 2014, 11:38pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi,

I think the vista is failing to load on the available hardware. Why don't you load an XP and then try to load a vista onto this system. Windows XP will act as a base and then you can use vista as a dual booting system.

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mothow Mar 07, 2014, 01:02pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: flash bios
sorry i should of realized that

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