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SuPeR Xp Jan 09, 2005, 03:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
It may be your sensor then. ANyway get a good heatsink & fan, and away you go.

Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time. ;)
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Russ V Feb 01, 2005, 05:03pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
Hello All,

Would you know if the Memory Frequency needs to be compatible with the CPU FSB Frequency.

For example
I have a Kingston 512MB PC2700 333Mhz on a 2.2GHz AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (400Mhz FSB).Is my machine crashing because I need a 400MHz PC3200 RAM and that currently my RAM can't handle the processor speed. If I clock my processor to Athlon 2500+ (333Mhz FSB) with the same RAM config as above then it works like a charm. What would the best scenario for my situation be ??

This might be a trivial question but i'm a newbee to Hardware...Thanks.

SuPeR Xp Feb 01, 2005, 05:28pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
There is a divider so that it does not need to be compatible. Plus we don't have 2000MHz Ram speeds yet.

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Russ V Feb 01, 2005, 06:48pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 01, 2005, 06:51pm EST

 
>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
I don't think my previous message got posted so my apologies if this is posted twice ...

I bought my CPU as a AMD Athlon XP 3200+ but at 2.2 GHz (200 X 11), I get the blue screen of death. However when i clock the CPU as shown below , it works fine.

Current Config :
1.8 GHz (166 X 11) (Max : 166 X 12 = 1.99Ghz) AMD Athlon 2500+
MSI K7N2 nForce2 Motherboard
3 X 512MB RAM, Kingston, PC2700,333Mhz
120 GB WD HDD
CD RW/DVD R

What am I missing here..Why doesnt it work at 2.2Ghz as a 3200+. Is my RAM Compatible ? Do I need to increase Vcore. CPU Temperature is fine around the 42C-45C mark. Can someone help me with the right config to get to work at 2.2GHz.

Thanks
Russ

SuPeR Xp Feb 01, 2005, 09:35pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
First off, leave everything to default. Keep the CPU @ 3200+ (2.20GHz) (200 x 11) & you’re FSB @ 200.

Now, the problem you are probably having is that you are running the FSB 200 (DDR400) in sync with the DDR @ 200 (DDR400). But your DDR only supports 166 (DDR333). So what you need to do is enable a divider so that your Ram can run 333 while the CPU’s FSB is 400.

So, in the BIOS under “Advanced Chipset Features” look for something that says
FSB / DRAM Ratio. Take it off of “Auto” & adjust the Ratio in a way so that your DDR speed runs @ 333. I’m not sure what the ratio is so just experiment. And & "ONLY" when you find the ratio for your DDR Ram to run 333, then you can probably do mild tweaking to like say 340, 350 or 360 etc..

Good Luck & Post Back Soon.

Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time. ;)
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SuPeR Xp Feb 01, 2005, 09:38pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
Here this is how your Bios should look like.
FSB/DRAM Ratio
http://www.firingsquad.com/media/hirez.asp?file=/hardware/msi_...ges/09.jpg
AND
http://www.firingsquad.com/media/hirez.asp?file=/hardware/msi_...ges/12.jpg

Again, Good Luck & Post Back Soon.


Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time. ;)
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Russ V Feb 02, 2005, 01:33am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
Hi ,

Thanks for your reply.

I have something which says "Adjust DRAM Freq (FSB:DRAM)".
But it only has two options : 1. Auto
2. By Spd

During my initial setting.( i.e when my machine crashed frequently at 2.2GHz,3200+) , this was set to By Spd. I changed it to Auto when i clocked down my CPU.

I don't see any values to tweak with :( besides these two options.

Thanks
- Russ


SuPeR Xp Feb 02, 2005, 05:07pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
Put your CPU's FSB to 200MHz which is DDR400.

And try leaving the FSB/Ram Ratio to Auto.

And if you still have problems, then update your Bios with the newest one ASAP. And try again.

Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time. ;)
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Bobby Omosetan Aug 13, 2005, 09:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
Hello all.

First, my current specs:
AMD 1800 XP+ (LOL)
DDR 266 ram
GA-7S748 MOBO
2 WESTERN DIGITAL ATA HDDs
LG cdr/rw dvd combo
audigy 1 gamer

I recently asked a friend to get me a 3200+ barton but have changed to the 2500+ after reading soo much about it. I know the MOBO is fsb400 capable, so...

My questions. can my above config attain 3200+ speeds on the 2500+ cpu? Should I go with a 2500+ barton or a thorobred? How do I unlock the multipliers? Would I need a BIOS upgrade? What RAM upgrade would be advisable as well as cpu heat issues?

I do video editing, animation and the occasional gaming on the above specs so I think the boost would do much to help me.

Thanx all....

Maestro Aug 13, 2005, 10:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
Hi,
I would definitely go the Barton core, but your ram will hold you back no end..........

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Bobby Omosetan Aug 13, 2005, 11:36pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
thanx. but is there anything alse you can tell me or some sites you can direct me to...?

Poseidon Aug 14, 2005, 02:18am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
You will get better performance if you invest in a Athlon 64 3000+ with a average mobo. Shouldn't be more than $200.

That will give you a boost.

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Bobby Omosetan Aug 16, 2005, 06:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
Poseidon

Yes, I am aware of the potential of the Athlon 64. But I'm not really looking at spending much. I just need to know if the cost to performance ratio of a 50$ cpu is good enuff.

Poseidon Aug 16, 2005, 09:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD Athlon 2500 vs 3000 XP
You can get a basic Athlon 64 2800+ for a great price. And it's performance will surpass any Athlon XP ;)

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