Thank you all of you Guys!
I would have never found out how can i solve this f***** problem with the hardware cursor
My config is:
Epox 8k3a+ via kt333 mainboard
1800+ Amd Athlon Xp
512mb Samsung ram
Connect3d Radeon9600

I had a locks with the KoToR, Lock on, Contract Jack. After a Windows Xp (prof eng sp1) reinstall i installed the newest via hyperion drivers, the catalyst 3.9. I enabled the fast write in the bios, manually configured the AGP speed to 4X, enabled the fast write in the Smartguard, and what a miracle?? The Contract Jack WORKS with enabled hardware cursor!!!!!! I dont know what about the Lock on and KoTor, 'cus i was so upset that i deleted them completely.

to the retard who bought a 5700 ultra, you cant wait for half life 2? well have fun playing half life 2 with all your settings turned down because all fx cards including the new 5700 ultra will run it like s**t. Just think about it... the 5900 ultra cant even run half life 2 right, how do you think your 5700 is going to compare? boy dont you look like a retard now. I'm sure in the near future, ATI WILL fix this problem... maybe as early as cat 4.0 then im sure youll be mad you bought a 5700 ultra.
anyway, to the person who was helping me with counter strike, the link you posted was just the link to the cat 3.9 driver. Are you saying you downloaded cat 3.9 and installed the call of duty patch and it worked for you? I remember when i first got my 9600 pro, i installed 3.7 and counter strike worked fine but wolfenstein ET didnt so i had to go down to 3.5. I'm not gonna risk installing a driver again and again because it takes too much time... I'm just gonna wait for 4.0.

hey does any non biased person know how the 5700 ultra and 9600 xt compare?

i have both cards now in 2 different systems and i finally got my 9600 pro to work all thnx to Jeff S on page 48...
thanks alot buddy

even tho i like the 9600 pro i still got TREMENDOUS lag with anistropic and antialiasing on the highest settings and now with the eVGA 5700 ultra i get no lag at all running smoothly, can the 9600 xt do this?

thanx a lot jeff ur comment helped me so much!

agp fast write is different then agp write.
well i read through jasons post on page 48 and when 4.0 comes out and it still doesnt work, i will try those steps.

I've tried everything you can try but it still hangs after 30-60 seconds of gameplay in every 3d game played. I've changed to virtually every driver possible, changed all bios setting, i even underclocked my cpu like somebody had written changed voltages, bus speeds, agp fast write on off, agp frequency, smartgart every option tested. You can say that i've tried it all BUT with no result. Please help me quick, this computer is a x-mas present so i hope that it will work perfect til x-mas. i don't want to give him my gforce card that works with no problem on every game i've ever tried ... Anyone knows if the gforce4 ti 4400 is faster than powercolor radeon 9600 ez 256mb? thanxs for all your help, now i'm going to read all the post from page 1 ... c'ya

my config:
Asus a7n8x deluxe rev 2.0
512mb Crucial ddr memory
amd athlonxp 2800
powercolor radeon 9600 ez 256mb

this needs sorting....its not just ATI cards, seems its most hi end cards.

i hi had a kt3 ultra board, 1800+ 512mb 2700sdram, geforce2pro, 300wat power, bought 2500+ and fx5900 (td128) MSI.

after installation, any 3d game would crash after 2 mins of play..3d blocks/lines on screen..no ctrl+alt+del works..reset still displays blocks on bios b ootup screen, only option is to power off and on, then screen is normal...lowering core clock of gfx card to 300 seems to make things work...but i dont want to do this, it should run at 400.i never overclock mem cpu or gfx by the way..disregard sound as an issue and lan as i have disabled/removed until i get the games going at full 400mhz clock speed..

i have tried all last 3 bios revisions of the kt3 ultra, and all bios settings like agp 1x etc etc etc....no avail...tried with and without via drivers....no avail. all detonator drivers from 2940 upto 5303 no avail..

so, i bought a q-tec 550 wat powewr supply, dual fanned...same

so bought new case, 3 fans included, 1 of is side mounted, (see thru case) .....same.

thought my 2700 mem was at fault, so bought 2x256 twinmos ddr400....same...

bought a nforce2 board (not ultra), same....

yes yes, i have reformatted etc etc, tried with nforce drivers and so on, same...
if i put my geforce2 in, all is ok..

so i have literally built a new pc, but problem still exists...
i have been on every board and it seems a lot of people have this, not just with the fx5900, but with most hi-end cards.

is there anything more you can suggest?
bearing in mind i work in I.T and have probably tried it.
cpu temp is at 40, gfx card temp is at 45 2d, rising to 60 3d by the way.....not removed fan from back end too.
what is the recommended temp for 3d cards?
it maybe just a faulty card?
1 thing i noticed is that on the back there is only a fan, no heatsink...front has a massive heatsink and fan by the way...

FINALY SOME PROGRESS!

Well, I dont know about you XP users. I highly suggest going back to windows 2000 pro if you've ever used that. Best interface I've ever worked with. XP has to many problems with a s**tty OS.

Anyway. CATALYST 3.9 works almost perfect. With default OGL settings. And doesn't crash with most games that I've tested on. Only problem is you have whiteout lines across screen. Which makes the game still playable, but annoying. DOD and CS included. Can anyone help more on this. I"M ALMOST THERE! suggestions for WIN 2000 pro...

Jason

re: andrew hard

Hello, sounds like you've tried just about everything we've come up with...
there's just 1 last thing to test i noticed you haven't tried yet, apparently if your bios has the setting you should be able to change your "vcore" voltage from 1.5 to 1.6 (apparently this is a fix though i cant test it because my bios doesn't have the option to change my vcore voltage)

also if that doesn't work you may also want to try these drivers from ati: http://www.megagames.com/news/html/software/ati310beta.shtml
its a beta catalyst that may solve some problems until the next catalyst is out.

sorry, i also tried the vcore settings on every bloody thing!
1.5 to 1.8 if i remember?
also mem timings, and also cpu frequencys.....
goin to do more testing now...

also, as stated my card is a Geforce Not ATI,
i posted here as its biggest thread...
but there are a lot of geforce gamers with exactly same problems..

i know.. people think geforce drivers/cards are perfect... a lot of people have these problems too and im sure theres forums out there like this except for a geforce card. I admit geforce drivers are better then ATI's but theyre still not perfect... thats one area i think nvidia is ahead of ati.

just a thought, ATI usually puts out the new driver in exactly a month or less but this time its taking a little longer.

good maybe their taking the time to actually bother fixing the problem before yet another catalyst virsion rolls by ;-)
well, anyway im keeping my fingers crossed

I have a small computershop in holland an sold a few 9600/pro/xt's and all seem to have the same probs. We have read all 51 pages of this thread. and tested everything.
It has NOTHING to do with boards, chipsets,temperature, power or whatever. It's pure the ati driver(or vga card bios) trust me.

The best solution is simple. Ati driver 3.8 and set it to agp4x; that's it.

I know we all want 8x agp, but current drivers just dont work on 8x. (the few people that do get it to work on agp 8x are just damn lucky or have corrupt grafix or whatever)

We have noticed that the latest batch of sapphire cards we sold set the agp automatically to agp4x. (isnt that strange??!) (even on agp 8x boards like asus p4p800) Sapphire is also refusing to use 3.9 as standard driver. Vpu recover is totally useless bytheway. (it delays the lockup with a few secs, so what!)

One more thing: the cod "patch" and the "patch" after that one are not patches att all. They are beta drivers simple as that. (22mb!) Ati is reading threads like this all over(and get thousands of angry emails/calls a day) and post these "patches" hoping one will fix all probs. If that happens: you can bet on it, a new catalyst driver is released...

Im running a 9600xt 256mb myself running on agp4x on my p4 2.4 , asus p4p800 and 512mb dddr400 dualchannel, and it has been running fine for a week now.

My advice to all: don't spend weeks on trying stuff, let Ati do that for you, it's their job! Put it on agp4x for now and hope before halflife 2 will be released (which i receive for free (yeah!! Nice ati bundle)), agp8x will work nicely and we all kick nvidia's *ss. (they have been monopolizing to long now anyway; we have seen it before with 3dfx remember??)

Im gonna play c&c generals again...

Here is a ray of hope for some of you I hope. I just bought two of these cards, one for me and one as an Xmas present. I've always bought and been very happy with NVidia cards prior to this and experienced no problems. I've always been somewhat nervous about buying an ATI but many of my friends have them and are happy and the DX9 and benchmarks on the 9600 pro looked good relative to the price so I jumped in. Almost none of my games worked properly except very old ones. 3DMark2001 hung except for one run through and when it ran the graphics were all messed up. I started with the latest Hyperion dirvers and ATI drivers before I even tested anything, that's just policy for me. I started reading these posts to find a solution and only got more depressed as I read them. I was investigating IRQ mappings and since about 7 things in my system were mapping to IRQ 11 I thought I might force the PNP configuration on some of them away from IRQ 11, most notably I wanted to get the video card off of IRQ11. While in the bios in the PNP/PCI menu (most of them seem to have one) I was manually setting some IRQ to PCI slots. When I mess in there I typically set the "Reset Configuration Data" to enabled. This setting is supposed to be usefull when your hardware configuration changes and your operating system won't boot. I believe it was responsible for the instant fixing of all my problems with the Sapphire 9600 Pro card running various games. So far 3DMark 2001, Max Payne II, and Unreal II Awakening all run flawlessly since I toggled this setting to enabled. Here is some of my configuration information:

DFI motherboard with Via chip set AGP 4X
Soundblaster Live
Athalon XP 2000 CPU
512 meg of ram.

I spent 3 hours mucking around until I tried this, reading posts, trying various things, reinstalling drivers, trying various versions of drivers. It might possibly have been the PCI/IRQ mappings but I don't believe so. Go to your bios and find the PNP/PCI menu and enable the Reset Configuration Data. If this helps even one of you I will consider this post well worth the time. If this works for anyone else maybe respond and let everyone know.

Good luck. Few things are more frustrating than buying a new toy and having these kinds of problems. My 3D bench went from about 5200 to 9890 or so. Oh, and I enable fast writes, not hang ups but no real improvement in the benchmark. I'm going to start overclocking next, I want to crack 10,000!

Dear Seb
With regards to your problems, the Sapphire cardds were known to be at one point using slower memory , this was stated in a PC mag I read when I was looking for a new Graphic card, so maybe is one of these batches you had, but like I sadi before for, Gigabyte seem to have made he best job of using 9600 Pro chips, the rest seem to have muffed it up. So for all you folks that can, try and find a gigabyte version, I know they may ne £20 dearer, but I only had problems when I used mine in on a VIA mobo. My NForce2 board is okay with it. And Brent Red, not sure if Soltek doa mobo for Intel chips that also uses Nforce2 chipsets on the mobo, but if I were you , I would tr and avoid any type of VIA chipsets, regardless of the grapics cards, ocs VIA seem to be a souce of problems for all manner of addons and so on, so best idea to avoid VIA and then you will at least know that VIA can not stuff up your system.
If I see anthing on the web regarding Intel P4 and Nforce2 Iwill post you the link to the site and hopefully you might be able to geet whatever board is quoted.
Brent Red are you based in Europe or US, cos I .m not sure if mobos are the same around the world, I would have thought so, but like My old business lecturer at college told me - 'never assume anything- my dear'. Lovely lady, a bit old me, but very tastey all the same lol
Regards
Twilight



Regards Twilight

re: Seb P.

I'm happy to hear you solved you're problems by reverting to catalyst 3.8 at agp 4x

Unfortunately this doesn't work for everyone. My motherboard only supports agp 4x so that's not an issue and i've tried every catalyst (including 3.8) from 3.4 to 3.9, they all have the same crashes in the same games at the same times, as soon as you move the mouse they lock up and only in games that use hardware mouse..


there are several different problems with the 9600, it seems to be effecting different systems in a couple different ways, it locks up on mouse movement for some people(like me) and for others it will lock up in games(like call of duty) that would work fine for the people who get mouse lockups in other games..


I agree with you its definitely ATI's job to be fixing this problem, unfortunately they don't seem to be too eager.
they are hardly willing to admit there's any problem, i think they're hoping we'll all just upgrade our systems and go away...

I'm running @ 8x on my nforce2 mobo with AGP fast write and AGP write OFF. I haven't bothered to see if AGP fast write on will make or break my stability. I'm using the latest cod fix or aka beta drivers.

F*** YOU who say FX5700ULTRA wont run HL2 with full setting..
You must be REAL ATI FREAK!!!
Of course it runs just fine! youll see..
ANYONE WHO SAYS 9600PRO IS BETTER THAN 5700ULTRA go to SKULLshrinker!!!

Has ATI paid some of you freaks? crap 9600 that doesnt even work "IS THE GREATEST"
LOL LOL LOL LOLO LOLOLOLOLOOOOLLLLOOLL O Stop crap spitting ´
It doesnt run any better with 9600, if it even work?

You have seen results with early version of HL2! right??
WAIT when HL2 comes out and then youll see what cards are fast!!!
You cant judge Nvidia to be SLOW S***, with results of BETA(CRAP!)

right.....purely from a geforce point of view.....can all people please install the hidden feature patch, (enables gpu + mem clocking up or down)
http://download.guru3d.com/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=201

clock 3d frequency to same as 2d for your geforce.....mine is a fx, so 300 2d 400 3d...
underclocked 3d to 300 and all games work flawlesley.

so i clocked it up......crashing...
then i looked at temp gauge in the nvidia control panel...
43ish 2d....soon as i run a 3d game it goes to 53ish....keep alt+tabbing through games back to desktop to check your temps please...it must be temp/power related from a geforce point of view because lowering clock to 300 works.

please all geforce owners try this please....if you have not got a FX card, just lower whatever clock setting by 100.

then if all works, put it back to normal, or just below, and alt+tab from a 3d game.
core slowdown is 135 degrees on my card, but thats way too high.
i need to know other users temp settings and also if other users lowering clock solves probs..
this is not a fix for me as i aint paying cash for something i gotta slowdown, but its getting nearer the problem.