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Patrick Grimshaw Jun 29, 2003, 07:21am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi
I'm looking for a very reliable athlon motherboard for an xp 2100+, im hopefully gonna ditch my K7S5A Pro and I am strongly leaning towards the asus A7N8x deluxe, any thoughts?
im fed up of sticking machines together and peeing around trying to get it to work fine and reinstall windows when i install the motherboard cd drivers and looking for umpteen driver updates on the net before it will stop crashing. Am I likely to get all this aggro from the asus board?
I have always managed to get my systems working fine but the k7s5a pro was the cheapest and it turns out i do have a faulty m/board and i am willing to pay a little extra just to get rid of the aggro.
Which reminds me of an article in 'Scientific American' it seems as computers get more complex, there are more potential problems. Although, it does seem a fairly obvious point - it is certainly something that we could have worked out for ourselves......


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Wildwood Jun 29, 2003, 07:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
lol, I like that statement from Scientific American. The obvious isn't always so obvious.
The A7N8X is rated as the fastest motherboard out right now (for AMD). But I see alot of posts in forums with people having problems with them.
Myself, being somewhat conservative, prefer a nice balance of speed and stability. And it is my opinion that you get this with an MSI KT4 Ultra. The KT400 chipset seems to be more stable than NForce2, so far. And I am a very strong advocate for MSI boards. Reliable with good support. The KT4 Ultra is not as fast as the A7N8X. So if speed is the end all to your decision, then get it. It is still way far ahead of that K7S5A in reliability. Not to mention, lightyears ahead in speed.


jmerc Jun 29, 2003, 08:12am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
Patrick,
Here's my suggestion: Good Luck in whatever decison you make!

http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=18

Good solid board and has worked great from day 1.

My PC Specs:
- Windows XP Home Edition SP1
- Abit KD7 w/on-board lan
- Manufacturer: http://www.abit.com.tw/
- Model: KD7(VIA KT400-8235)
- Version: 1.x
- BIOS Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
- BIOS Properties: Plug and Play, Flash, AGP
- XP2100+ Processor (1.73GHZ)
- PNY GeFORCE FX 5200Ultra AGP
128MB DDR - 650MHz Memory Data Rate
Microsoft nVidia Driver v.44.03
- Microsoft Optical Blue Mouse
- IBM Internet Keyboard
- WD 80GB HD 8MB Special Edition
7200rpm ATA100 w/8MB Cache
- Mag Innovision 15" LCD Monitor
- Nec 17” MultiSync P750
- DirectX v8.1
- Standard Antec ATX Case
- Antec 430W Power Supply
- PNY 1024MB RAM (2 * 512) PNY Optima PC2700 DDR 333 RAM
- Aver Media Video Capture Card
- LG DVD ROM
- Verbatim 52X24X52 CD-RW
- Belkin 1.44MB 3.5 “ Floppy

Life is too short, make the best of it!
jmerc Jun 29, 2003, 08:19am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
Patrick,
Found this while surfing the net, maybe it will help somewhat:At the end you will find the direct link for your and all other members reference:

Ratings: Introducing Sudhian Media’s New Board Ranking System:

Rather than slapping a simple “Editor’s Choice” over a board or two, we’ve designed and implemented an entirely new rating methodology. Boards will be rated and placed into the following three categories:

Best Overclocking / Enthusiast Boards:

Boards in this category are ones designed to appeal most to hard-core tweakers, modders, overclockers, and performance-seekers. Features must be available without compromising stability. Performance and flexibility are the dominant characteristics by which this category is judged, though stability is still highly significant—unstable high-end performance is ultimately useless.

Media / Peripheral Rich Boards:

These are boards designed for high functionality, flexibility, and rich feature sets. High quality components / flexible configurations are a must. Performance is still obviously important, but its assumed board’s of this type are valued highly for specific options or abilities over raw speed.

Quality Budget Boards:

Our third category is designed for boards with low price points but high feature sets or a board that clearly outperforms a budget background. Products must be competitive in terms of performance and features.

Finally, we have a fourth category entitled “Other Bests and Mosts” Different boards can be listed here for individual, noteworthy features or solutions, some of which may be tongue-in-cheek—you’ve been warned.

KT400 Solutions: How They Rated:

Best Overclocking / Enthusiast Boards:

1. ABIT KD7-RAIDSoyo
2. SY-KT400 Dragon Ultra (Platinum Edition)
3. ASUS A7V8X

Explanation: The ABIT KD7-RAID takes first place for its high gaming performance and best overall overclocking potential. While the Soyo SY-KT400 has a limited overhead for overclocking, its one of the most stylish, sleek, and flexible boards we’ve reviewed here, with definite appeal to the enthusiast market. The ASUS pulls into the Top 3 here by offering reasonable overclocking, high stability, along with FireWire support.

Best Media / Peripheral Rich Boards:

MSI KT4 Ultra
Soyo SY-KT400 Dragon Ultra (Platinum Edition)
AOpen AK77-8X MAX
Explanation: MSI’s combination of features, wireless, and user-friendly documentation along with the board’s stability and high performance make it a definite winner in this category, while Soyo’s front-panel support for multiple memory cards, included IDE cabling, and AGP Pro slot are all valuable features for a board of this type. While AOpen’s AK77-8X MAX lacked the wireless or AGP Pro support of the other two, the company’s decision to include multiple FireWire ports combined with AOpen’s reputation for building high-quality products and excellent documentation explain the board’s high ranking.

Best Quality Budget Boards:

FIC AN19E
Soltek SL-75FRV
Explanation: Based on our tests, the FIC AN19E is a model for what a budget motherboard should look like. While it lacks some of the advanced features found on other boards in our round-up, it carries the core elements guaranteed to appeal to its audience today. The board’s performance and stability were both exemplary, with even its overclocking performance sitting above-average. If you’re on a budget but looking for uncompromised product, this is the board to have.

The Soltek SL-75FRV is tilted a bit to the other end of the spectrum. While there’s nothing wrong with the board, there’s nothing particularly to recommend it either, save price. For $77 you’re getting a solid product in terms of stability or performance, but this is definitely a board purchased on price alone.

Here's the direct link in case I didn't cut and paste all the information.
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=283&pid=1050

Regards,
Jay


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Patrick Grimshaw Jun 29, 2003, 09:41am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
phew, thanks, i think i will go for abit kd7 raid, it looks fairly cheap to my amazement. No need for shelling out double the money on asus a7n8x eh? I just want reasonable performance and very good STABILITY!
not sure if i will need raid at anytime in future but no harm in the extra couple o' quid.
sudhian website was cool, thanks i will keep it in mind for the future. I usually use tomshardware, (http://www.tomshardware.com) which is not as good as it used to be so I'll check this one out some more.
Think I'll buy a sleek case too. i like my pc to look good :) I considered attaching an aquarium side panel to it.... only for a minute!
im very grateful for all your help
cheerio :)
best of luck

jmerc Jun 29, 2003, 09:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
Patrick,
Was my pleasure. You can't go wrong with either selection.
Josh made an excellent choice also. I was going to buy the MSI, but found the KD7 at the time I was ready to purchase a new motherboard.
Was one of the best choices I've made to date.

Good luck and let us know how you make out!

Jay

Life is too short, make the best of it!
Ken Bailey Jun 29, 2003, 01:31pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
not to complicate things but im not a huge asus fan anymore ;)

for regular family comptuers, buisness apps, net working, etc etc etc, i have to say gigabytes have always been a-ok boards for me. im building my mother a new comp based on a gigabyte in a few weeks. the only problem i ever had with mine which caused me to replace it, was the AGP slot. the gigabyte GA-7VA-C i had only had a 4x agp slot and i think the KT333 chipset. this was fine until i got rid of my radeon 9100(which i still have and is for sale BTW, hehe)and got an AGP 8x geforce 4. using the 8x card in the 4x board caused it to default to 2x, which was annoying. other than that the board was great. and they DO make boards with more modern chipsets, thats just the one I had. and gigabytes are cheap :O

the board I use now is an XFX (http://www.xfxforce.com) which is made by pine technologies and uses the KT400A chipset. so far this board hasnt given me a single problem, and I have to say its one of the nicest vie used yet. the only problem i had is on the AGP locking mechanism. the radeon I have doesnt like the little AGP lock, so I just filed a tiny bit of PCB away and it fits fine. and i didnt have to, the lock isnt necessary. it just stayed open. so i definitely think both are good choices. oh, and the XFX board is the heart of my gaming rig.

Kris Norton Jun 29, 2003, 02:49pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yup I'm glad to see that people are also getting the same results from their KT4 Ultras. I love mine. It is the best VIA chipset I've ever used. It is a no-crash, reasonable performer, cool keeping (with bios 1.4) little beautiful mobo. Mine could run a month without a hiccup. I'd even go as far as to say it performed better than the NF2 chipsets in games.It's the most stable mobo i've seen/read about. At the price I paid for it (£59inc Vat) it was a steal. I bought it when the chipset first surfaced &. I've tested this motherboard to the limits, overclocking is painless, temp and stability stay focused.

But as long as you ditch the ECS, you should be fine :)

John Mason Jul 01, 2003, 11:11am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I am now using a Soyo-SY-KT400 dragon lite after trying to install 3 P4VXA2 ECS motherboards!!! ..........ECS should be band in making boards!!!! BAD MANUEL!! BAD SUPPORT!!! JUST PLAIN BAD ALL AROUND!!!! the Soyo main boards manuel was step by step and very clear!!!!!

jmerc Jul 01, 2003, 11:39am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
Patrick,
I must strongly agree with Ken, I am not a fan of ASUS (ASUCKS).
The previous board I had was one of their boards and I wish I had never bought it. That board gave me more headaches and heartaches than you could ever imagine. Then you factor in their customer support or lack there of and you can understand why they are not on the top of my list.

Stick with one of the brands above and you should be fine.

Keep us posted on your final decision and how it works out! Good Luck!!!

Regards,
Jay

Life is too short, make the best of it!
Patrick Grimshaw Jul 02, 2003, 01:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
well i handed back the ecs board and said it was faulty. They are testing it and will probably give me a new one or if im lucky give me a refund *crosses fingers*
I agree about ECS, all the components i use have worked fine with all my other boards and the psu is a 350watt amd recommended, it takes the pee don't it!
not to mention that i had to remove the xp 2100+ to send back the m/board, it required 3 screwdrivers all cunningly arranged around the heatsink clip to lever it out and luckily on that day god was on my side, phew :)
ill keep u posted how my new mobo turns out, but if i get a replacement ecs, i wont write and u can just assume it all went t**s up ;)

ant decto Jul 02, 2003, 05:52pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
I've just ordered a gigabyte Nforce 2 400 GA-7N400 Pro, good feature set with both SATA and PATA raid.

Does well in this review.... I'll know more when it arrives ;)

http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/gigabyte_7n400pro/gigabyte_...o_pg1.html

Ant

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Dean s Apr 01, 2004, 06:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
more and more peple getting asus boards r having probs

Computers:
1st:epson 386, 2nd: P 90, 3rd: PIII 450
---------current puters-----------------
XP 2400+, 512 mb K7VMP2-------------
P4 1.6, 512mb, P4S533
-----------main puter----------------
P4 2.8 800 fsb w/ HT; ASUS P4P 800
1024 mb corsair ddr 400
Carter Sudeith Apr 01, 2004, 07:17pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
The Shuttle AN35N if you're on a budget ($65)
The ABIT NF7-S if you want raw speed ($100)
The K7N2 Delta - ILSR if you like the best! ($130)

Michael A. Apr 01, 2004, 07:35pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
Anything without the name ASUS on it. Look into the KT-600 from SOYO or the KD7 and NF7 series from ABIT.

Michael A.
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Will Olson II Apr 01, 2004, 07:37pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: most reliable motherboard?
I have the MSI K7N2 DELTA ISLR and WOW this thing kick ass its sooooo much faster than my 745Ultra and has sooooooooooooooooooo much more tweakablitity? and playing. I love this board so much so many features and MSI is to me the best Motherboard/VideoCard maker out there THE BEST quality at some of the cheapest prices out there...now if they would only Make some ATI based cards.

MSI K7N2 DELTA ILSR
AthlonXP 2800+(barton)
eVGA nVIDIA 6800GS 256MB
Crucial 1.5GB DDR in Dual Channel


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