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Vadim Rapp Jul 03, 2003, 11:31am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I don't think RIAA will necessarily lose the battle. With all the things going on in the U.S., security paranoia, PATRIOT 2, fears, I'm sure they will be able to win the battle.

I think the Internet as we know it, is now losing its strength. Too much hope was on it, and when the bubble blew, not much left. The number of companies actually making money on the internet is miserable. Millions of stupid companies understood entering internet arena as giving internet access to every employee, and naturally, saw a sharp decline in productivity and new expenses to defend themselves from attacks and spam. So I think, there will be a decline in the interest to Internet for several years, and eventually it will settle on a quite low level.

RIAA has the power to "help" this trend a lot. If they get peers in the today's U.S. Government, who may be interested in the same movement for other reasons, there's not much to withstand them.


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David Fleck Jul 03, 2003, 01:32pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I think you :

1. underestimate the number of companies making money on the internet. Every car dealership that has an internet site (which is beyond substantial) sells between 3-10 cars a month off of it. Traditional companies and industries are starting to take advantage of the technology available.

2. underestimate the power of the consumer. The harder th RIAA pushes, the more it will alienate the consumer and look like the strong armed bad guy it is. Even Metallica has distanced itself from their relationship with the RIAA. The writing is on the wall. The RIAA has already lost.

The music company needs to ditch its old economic model in an internet saavy world. Reinvention is the only answer and a subscription service mentioned in the original article is the ONLY viable solution.

Wizard Prang Jul 03, 2003, 05:31pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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The RIAA may win the battle, but they will lose the war. Why? Because they are trying to solve an ethical problem with a technical solution. That will not work on a number of levels. DRM, for instance, will have problems gaining widespread adoption if the consumers have to give up the convenience to listen to paid-for music when and where they want.

While a lot of music is downloaded and copied, a large chunk of it does not, contrary to what the RIAA shills may want to tell you, represent lost sales. Some are collectors, who download and burn everything whether it is good or not. Others are kids who like the music but could or would not buy it anyway.

If the RIAA was able to shut down all file sharing tomorrow, do you really think that people would run out and by $4BN-worth of music? To quote Shania Twain, "Naaaaah"...

FWIW I have downloaded and listened to literally gigabytes of music. Half gets listened to once and is then summarily deleted. Culling continues over the next few weeks and those that are still engaging my attention a month later go on my shortlist.

I buy about 15-20 CDs a year; about twice what I bought before MP3 came on the scene. 90% of those purchases are would not have happened if it were not for MP3, and those purchases are regret-free. Most are puchased on sale at BMG, a few are purchased second-hand.


The music business has been stuck in a "$X-for-44-minutes-of-music" groove since the days of vinyl. Their ship is sinking, and they are refusing to get into the lifeboats. They are middlemen who have not realized that they are unnecessary.

If the RIAA succeeded in having their way, I would end up buying less music, not more. I will continue buying CDs, but the more rapacious the RIAA gets, the more second-hand CDs I will purchase. I get legal music, and the RIAA gets NOTHING.

Thought for the day: The RIAA should change its name, as they do not represent the artists.

Prang

Who is... oh, never mind :)
christopher Mumby Jul 04, 2003, 02:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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what record companies do to artist is far worse than what a people supposedly do on the internet to them...

just look at R&B group like TLC (if you guys listen to hiphop) their second album sold over 10 million copies... and they all (3 of them ) got 2million dollars combined to be shared among the 3 of them...

and then lets not forget about a our good ole friend Mettallica who say they hate people who steal their songs.... (80 million records sold before that comment) now nothing really ...

moral to this story

The Recording Industry is too big for this childish quarelling... they need to operate like any business absorb their losses and continue to improvise....

egd Jul 05, 2003, 01:16am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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You're mistaken if you think America is all there is to the music industry.

zak326 Jul 06, 2003, 05:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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All I can say is give me a part of the class action suit! I want to retire! Please RIAA, destroy my computer! The courts will slap you down quicker than you can say royalty check! Vigilante justice is unacceptable even in conservative Bush America.

They better watch out for all those National Rifle Association members, who won't take too kindly to these left wing radicals greed and avarice!

Whoever the law firm is that is advising these yoyo's should be roundly admonished by the American Bar Association, of which I am a a member. Okay RIAA you have my name, come on! invade my privacy! destroy my personal property against my will! and MAKE ME RICHER THAN MY WILDEST DREAMS! I'm waiting!

christopher Mumby Jul 08, 2003, 04:10am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I been hearing alot of talk lately about RIAA using software to destroy computers who share music???

interesting, now im not contemplating that it is impossible, just hard to imagine these scum will send a piece of code on to your computer that will render you harddrive, MB and everyother piece of hardware helpless.

RIAA has really gotten to big for their britches
I understand we do live in Conservative times but destroying a person's computer? what about all the complications that can arise, what if a friend was sharing the music instead of the owner. or what if you owned the music???

The audacity of it is mind boggling.......... i dont want to go on a rant here
but i believe sept 11 has a lot to do with all these crazy ideas going on nowadays.. this country is never been same as it was and it probably never will be.....

zak326 Jul 08, 2003, 09:11am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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cd after the riaa destroys either their pc or the pc of a friend. Talk about egomaniacs. My guess is that somne of the wiser artists who really want to make money will splinter off from the RIAA a new order will be bortn

Tisiphone Aug 13, 2003, 12:47pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I could deal with that. I think the RIAA is just pouty because they missed the boat completely on the digital music revolution. Oops..!

Nice comment about the NRA, btw, I can already see the new sales booths at gun shows full of burned music cds instead of weapondry... ;-)

The Real Robert Jones May 18, 2004, 08:33pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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haha destroy your computer?? wtf...just reformat your hard drive and youll be A-OK!
(thats is...if u know how to reformat :))

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