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  Wow, the idea that this rates as front page news is sad..... 
 
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Robert Kropiewnicki Jul 30, 2001, 04:09pm EDT Report Abuse
A frontpage article based on a link to a website containing nothing more than a link to an investing forum as if they're the most reliable source of information......

For what it's worth, I've attempted to contact X-Bit to find out if they've gotten any independent confirmation. Right now, there are NO other web sites that I have found that have been able to confirm this to be the case.

I will post links to info as I find them.


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Sander Sassen Jul 30, 2001, 04:18pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Robert,

We'll probably know this week, whether there's serious issues with the nForce's sound hardware or not. Our board has the nFoce 420 chipset and should come with all bells and whistles attached.

Cheers,

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Robert Kropiewnicki Jul 30, 2001, 04:18pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Here's is one system builder with an nForce system slated for September in Europe:

4MBO will release a complete nForce PC in europe in september. The specs are not final yet. But the system will have a DVD drive, CDR-W, 256MB PC266 DDR RAM, TV-Out function and a fast Athlon CPU. The mainboard is a special OEM board made for 4MBO by a well known taiwanese manufacturer (The do not tell the name at the moment but it might be MSI). Thre price will be below 3000 DM (1500 Euro). The OS will come with Windows XP. The images above show a prototype system.

http://www.4mbo.de

Robert Kropiewnicki Jul 30, 2001, 04:19pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
My point was that until someone gets some kind of confirmation on it, this is not front page news.....maybe daily column as something to keep an eye one.....but not front page news.

Robert Kropiewnicki Jul 30, 2001, 04:29pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
From the front page of nV News:

About nForce - 7/30/2001 1:48 pm - By: Ben - Source:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I asked Brian Del Rizzo, NVIDIA PR Mananger, whether the nForce 220 and 420 were still on track for an August/September release . With the rumors about nForce around the net, here's an official response:
Q: Are the nForce 220 and 420 still on track for August/September release?

A: Yep

Link: http://www.nvnews.net

Robert Kropiewnicki Jul 30, 2001, 04:35pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Some advice from Van Smith, formerly of Inquest and Tom's Hardware Guide, regarding information posted on investment boards:

Misinformation War For Profit and Position

It is an ugly Internet secret that members of the investment community visit high traffic message boards posting responses made to drive down a company's stock value so that the poster can profit by shorting the affected stock.

Also known is that corporate insiders do much the same thing in efforts to aid their company's fortunes while undermining rival companies. Additionally, it is a possibility if not likelihood that some of these posters are paid to undertake such covert guerilla tactics judging by the sheer quantity of corporate FUD (Fear-Uncertainty-Doubt) dumped on some of the more influential message boards.

The true extent of these practices is not known since the Internet can afford a level of anonymity, but it appears to be widespread according to remarks I have gathered from a few webmasters. If you have any evidence supporting such conjecture, please contact me.


Here's the link to the article on his page: http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2001/july/010725_FUD_And_...D_JPEG.htm

Dan Mepham Jul 30, 2001, 04:38pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
I think you're arguing semantics here. I don't think it makes a difference whether it's under the 'news' section or the 'column' section. The important part was the editorial content, not the news, anyway.

Dan Mepham

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Robert Kropiewnicki Jul 30, 2001, 04:38pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Here's a link to the thread on Ace's Hardware including some interesting discrepancies in the post that started this rumor:

http://www.aceshardware.com/board/general/read.php?message_id=65008763

Robert Kropiewnicki Jul 30, 2001, 04:39pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Dan,

Until someone gets some kind of verification of this rumor, it isn't news, it's just a rumor.

Dan Mepham Jul 30, 2001, 04:47pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Robert,

I'm fully aware that it's just a rumor. Did you read through the whole thing? I spent the last half of the article describing why you SHOULDN'T believe it. As I said, the important part of that was not the rumor, but the editorial content, which you seem to have glossed over.

Yes, 'technically' it should probably be under 'editorials' not 'news'. I'm not going to argue semantics. We just put things on the front page so people will read them.

Dan Mepham

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Dan Mepham
Dan Mepham Jul 30, 2001, 04:48pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
(or rather, I should say, why you shouldn't believe it without having MORE information/verification)

Dan Mepham
Robert Kropiewnicki Jul 30, 2001, 04:57pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Perhaps I've just been reading too many pile-on articles today....it's amazing what sites will post as news without any confirmation. You did go a step farther than most to highlight the fact that it's a rumor.

I think the hardware community in general took a hit to their credibility today in that they so happily spread rumors without bothering to do any legwork to confirm.

Kevin Hamill Jul 31, 2001, 01:12am EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
But why did you guys write an antire 'article' about it? It's a rumor and you take the time to make a pretty graphic and everything. Come on...

Dan Mepham Jul 31, 2001, 09:59am EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Boys,

I'm afraid some of you are really reading WAY too much into things. (Or not reading into things at all, one or the other). Please understand, I do not wish to be rude at all .. but it's very difficult to tell people that they completely missed the boat in a nice way.

I saw a rumor, that I think people are believing FAR too quickly, and with little proof, and I pointed that out. I didn't write an essay on the thing, I simply pointed it out in two paragraphs. Nothing more, nothing less.

Dan Mepham

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Dan Mepham
NickName Aug 01, 2001, 06:28pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Question
When are they going to re-design the N-Force chipset. I read an article saying that this is a really problem proned chipset, and they where going to re-design the whole chip-set.

I will look for the article URL and post it for you guys....

Dan Mepham Aug 01, 2001, 06:58pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
I highly doubt they're going to redesign anything at this point. 99% of the rumors of problems you here at this point are just that - rumors.

Dan Mepham

Editor in Chief, Hardware Analysis
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Dan Mepham
Kevin Hamill Aug 01, 2001, 11:23pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
Considering I just messed around with a final revision NVIDIA reference board with the nForce on it, I am going to assume these rumors are false.

NickName Aug 02, 2001, 01:23am EDT Report Abuse
>> I was just stating a RUMOR.
RUMOR is the key word. If i did not say this was a RUMOR in my post. I ment to.

Brendan Harnett Aug 10, 2001, 11:47am EDT Report Abuse
>> I hope the nForce is on schedual
Because it sure will be a fun chipset to build a system around. With so many high quality integrated components, the price of reasonably performing PCs based on this chipset should be very low. Meaning that I may be able to offer a new line of budget PCs. I'm not really in that market much anymore (servers are so much more worthwhile to build), but I'm always building little cheapo boxes for friends and their friends, and their friends' friends... Fewer components means less hassle, and since I usually make nearly nothing on these types of machines, I don't have time to waste on them.

Justin Aug 10, 2001, 02:53pm EDT Report Abuse
>> [No Subject]
has anyone done any tests of the N-Force platforms yet and does anyone know when the N-Force platforms will be released? I want to buy the board and make a cheap system.



 

    
 
 

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