A little history here about how closely this problem relates to the ATI
side of the street. Hopefully a very advanced user will be able to take
this additional info and see where it is pointing and be able to take
ATI head on to fix this outrageous situation - obscure registry fixes
that take days on the web to find are NOT GOOD ENOUGH - right guys?
We should not be having to apply registry fixes to undo what shoddy software
has done to the ability to apply large system cache settings, which were
fine for me until the last 6 months.
At an earlier url listed here from ATI they admit that this much:
128 mb cards, large ram like 1gb, and larger hard drives like 80 gb
can have problems enabling large system cache. My system has all of that
and I am real P....ssed off that they have messed with xp basic memory
management functions in what I suspect is an attempt to make their
current drivers backward compatable with OS's that have less advanced
memory management capabilities than xp.
If I wanted crappy windows 98 functionality I would not have bought xp!!
Anyways, here are some of my best guesses and a little info to contribute
to solving this puzzle well enough so ATI can be confronted directly.
This fix had to be applied to ATI drivers from the 7.83 version until the
7.93 version was released to eliminate some video corruption in Links Golf,
common enough problem but the fix had alarming and revealing results...
(in terms of releases the later 7.94 and 7.95 drivers are the 3.8 and 3.9
THE FIX FROM LINKS GOLF SUPPORT STAFF AT AN EARLIER TIME:
> Ok, I have some new info in regards to Links. There's something called
> Smartgart in the ATI control panel. Right click your desktop and click
> properties, then the settings tab and then on the advanced button.
> Click on the smartgart tab and then turn fast writes off and set the
> AGP speed to off and then reboot. Then go back and set both settings
> back to what they were. Reboot again. Links should play fine now.
Also, for a short period with a couple of driver releases previous to the 3.8
Catalyst ATI mysteriously (with no explanation) offered an uninstaller
for the SmartGart function. I strongly suspect this was a feeble attempt
on their part to offer a fix for the types of problems encountered here,
but typical of their closed mouth silence about ATI programming errors
they offered no info as to why Smartgart should have to be removed.
However, at that earlier time when I used their uninstaller it removed
the ability to apply the fix from the Links Golf staff, and the corrupt
video images returned so I had to reinstall it with Smartgart.
HERE IS THE KEY - THE BIG TIPOFF I SUSPECT...
After applying Golf fix I noticed an INCREDIBLE difference in the most important
of all task manager stats. The ATI driver process had, by applying the Links
Golf fix, apparently been loaded right into the non-paged kernel memory!!
To put this in perspective, a clean install of xp had this stat in the 12000 K
range, then installing the Application Accelerator from Intel (only for Pent IV
Intel boards guys) which reduces memory bottlenecking, brought the non-paged
kernel memory up to 24000 k. Now after the ATI Links Golf fix was applied the non-
paged Kernel memory shot up to 34000 k !!
Even loading the OS Kernel directly into ram (only do it on xp with 512 or better
ram) did not vary this important stat, and the large cache setting did not vary it
either. Anyways, after the release of the 7.93 ATI driver, I found I could no
longer use the large system cache setting, and nothing else had changed and
my system was rock solid stable to that point.
ATI IS MOST DEFINITELY MESSING WITH THE XP MEMORY PROCESS AND NOT OWNING UP
TO IT IN MY OPINION. I suspect this relates to how they have to have their
drivers compatable with earlier OS's that do not manage memory processes
as well as xp, so something they have done has perverted xp's ability to
switch to a large cache setting.
I have submitted this info to Sapphire who supplied my ATI 9000 Pro card, and
they use the exact drivers from ATI through a link, and their techs gave me
a big runaround and did not address the problem whatsover - actually passed
me around the globe from Hong Kong to U.S. to Canada.
ATI has since fixed the minor video corruption problem, but I still have booting
problems when the large cache is enabled so will try the fix for that here.
I would be curious to to know if after applying that fix and then having to
change to a newer ATI driver down the road, if it has to be re-applied or
large cache turned off for the install or what?
Anyone tried installing a new driver after a successful fix for the large
A footnote:... for people with Intel boards that had 1.1 USB capability when
released - my board the D845BG is very common from the 1.6 processor time
period before USB 2.0 was built in, and Intel screwed up their motherboard
drivers with the June release this year (chipset software install utility)
and it has taken them 2 more releases to fix. The problem they temporarly
created was creating a 10 sec additional hang when loading the OS as the
bios was looking and expecting to find USB 2.0 functionality. They have now
removed this built in USB 2.0 functionality so USB 1.1 boards are not getting
Just thought I would mention another cause of hangs and error messages at the boot
createdby a software vendor who at least was responsible to immediately fix it
and own up to creating the problem if one read the release notes for later
INF motherboard files. WISH ATI WAS A TENTH AS RELIABLE!!!