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John Kelsall Oct 09, 2002, 08:33pm EDT Report Abuse
HELP!!!
I have had endless problems with my K7S5A board, my problem is when I try to run anything that requires 3D capabilities, it runs for 3 minutes then locks up, nothing else to do except reboot.It will run all day if I'm only doing office stuff. I have tried everything took back the mobo, changed the graphic card (hercules 4500 64meg) took back my athlon 1600xp replaced it with an athlon 1900xp, got a new case 300w, fitted front and rear 80mm fans put on a larger cpu cooler but it still crashes. I'm running windows xp. I have tried to download the AMI flash utility but eveywhere I get it from it doesn't work it keeps giving me an error mesage. The only thing I havent tried is replacing my memory I have 384meg sdram 133mhz which I know is working fine. I would be very grateful if anyone could offer me any advice or maybe send me the flash utility and the apprpriate bios upgrade.

cheers


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Domenique Kemps Dec 24, 2002, 08:25am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
Probably if you run your pc with only 1 memory module, you have no trouble, can you try this, please? And let me know??

Glen Hurt Jan 25, 2003, 11:45pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
My wife and I both have the same ECS MB that you have with the same Geforce4 MX 440 graphics card and same XP 1800 CPU. She's experiencing the exact same "locking up" problem that you described while running 3D apps. The only difference in our machines is that I'm running DDR memory rather than PC133 SDRAM memory that she's running. Have you since remedied the problem?

Domenique Kemps Jan 26, 2003, 05:04am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
If you have both 1 memory module, and still have problems, then you have to try a better PSU.

Roberto Verrocchio Feb 14, 2003, 02:43pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
This board is the worst purchase I have ever made. I run only 1 stick of ram (Tried either ddr slots ) and I unplugged all unessential component from the PSU. My cooling system keeps the CPU below 42 degree (f) at all times and 20 for the case. I have all kinds of issues. ECS used us as its bench test instead of their own labs. I've been spending moths trying BIOS upgrade, BIOS setting, reinstallation of XP and 98 multiple times with different hardware configurations and drivers. EVEN my modem won't connect if I set clock at 133/133. Lots of people had to add components and jumpers between components to make the board run OK. Ridiculous.

one word... Junk.

Michael Watson Feb 26, 2003, 02:24pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
I also had seemingly endless probs. with this motherboard.
I'm running Win98SE, Athlon 2000+, ATI 3D Rage graphics board, and 256Mhz DDR ram, Single stick.
Had to re-install Widows 8 times, fiddle with the Bios settings, and have numerous panic attacks due to freezes, crashes, etc.
Many times couldn't even boot to Safe Mode.
I am now almost bald.
Anyway, it is now running ok.
In Bios setup, CPU PnP setup I chose 133MHz for both CPU frequency and Dram frequency. That enabled my Athlon to run at rated speed.
The other probs seem to have been cured by ensuring a good connection between my ATI graphics board and the AGP slot on the board--That is essential!
I hope this will help you and others who write of their problems, to be up and running properly.
Do not rely on Tech. Support--totally unwilling to waste their time. I would not buy this or any ECS board again. Fry Electronics (a US retailer), is offering othe ECS boards, in addition to this one, with different CPU's, but my experiences with useless and unapproachable Tech. Support gives one a pretty helplesss feeling, not conducive to the PR the ECS people want to hear.

Michael Watson Feb 26, 2003, 02:24pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
I also had seemingly endless probs. with this motherboard.
I'm running Win98SE, Athlon 2000+, ATI 3D Rage graphics board, and 256Mhz DDR ram, Single stick.
Had to re-install Widows 8 times, fiddle with the Bios settings, and have numerous panic attacks due to freezes, crashes, etc.
Many times couldn't even boot to Safe Mode.
I am now almost bald.
Anyway, it is now running ok.
In Bios setup, CPU PnP setup I chose 133MHz for both CPU frequency and Dram frequency. That enabled my Athlon to run at rated speed.
The other probs seem to have been cured by ensuring a good connection between my ATI graphics board and the AGP slot on the board--That is essential!
I hope this will help you and others who write of their problems, to be up and running properly.
Do not rely on Tech. Support--totally unwilling to waste their time. I would not buy this or any ECS board again. Fry Electronics (a US retailer), is offering othe ECS boards, in addition to this one, with different CPU's, but my experiences with useless and unapproachable Tech. Support gives one a pretty helplesss feeling, not conducive to the PR the ECS people want to hear.

Shawntea Arrowsmith Apr 27, 2003, 03:26am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
I have a problem too. Tried to install DDR ram and un-install the PC133, but now the computer won't start. Now what?

Roberto Verrocchio Apr 27, 2003, 09:30am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
I have to admit that a few issues were fixed with latest bios from ecs BUT the majority of my problems were due to a cheap Power Supply. I purchased a new PSU with lots of amps ( watts are relative) on the 3.3, 5 and 12 volts and magically all worked :)

Mike C Apr 27, 2003, 03:18pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
I have the same problem as well... I'm running

ECS K7S5A with latest Official Bios 02/10/29
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Palomino Core
256 MB PC2100 Mushkin DDR RAM 1 stick
Nvidia Geforce 3 TI 500
Aureal 2 Sound Card
Maxtor 10.2 GIG HD
Western Digital 5 GIG
Sony 24x CDRW
1.44 Floppy
System cooler
Stock CPU fan that came with the processor
350 Watt PSU

When I run it on 100/100 It runs stable as a rock and can't really get it to crash...

100/133 Runs stable as a rock and will only crash when I run Counter-Strike with the case closed and I'm Taxing the Processor at the same time by running Winamp, Vulpine GL Benchmark (Highest Quality Settings) and MSN, AIM messengers.... OR if I run Unreal Tournament 2003 or Unreal 2 with the case closed (even though thats all I'm running)....

133/133, Stable as a rock while surfing the web with the case closed, playing Diablo 2 LOD with the case closed and having my chat programs on with Winamp.. At this point the Processor is at 67 - 69 *C BUT as soon as I turn on a first person shooter game
Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Natural Selection, Ghost Recon, Quake 3 Arena, ETC. The computer crashes after 5 seconds - 5 minutes of play (Depends on how long it takes the processor to reach about 57*C and what its been through before hand...), even with the case open.... and it crashes at 57 *C... Whats UP??? if it can run perfectly for 23 minutes (closed the game afterwards) of D2 Lords of Dustruction at 69* C with the case closed, then why cant it handle 5 Minutes or 5 seconds at times of a first person shooter at 57 *C??????

I've even checked the MAX processor Temperature for the AMD Athlon XP cores and its all the same 90 - 95 *C before they crash.....

My brother has
ECS K7S5A Same Bios as me
AMD Athlon B or C core @ 900 MHz
256 MB DDR PC 2100 ram 1 stick
Aureal Sound card
Geforce 2 MX 400 32 MB SDR
450 Watt PSU
12x Iomega CDRW
1.44 Floppy
Maxtor 20 GB HD

His system runs Sold as a rock at 105 - 120 Degrees Celsius,
yes you heard right 105 - 120 *C
on 100/133 clock setting!
granted his comp crashes at 121 Degrees Celsius but still.... that takes days!

I've tried switching my ram slots (only have one stick)
I've tried removing everything but my Geforce, Processor, PSU and 1 Harddrive
I've tried Updating my Bios to the latest Version of OFFICIAL bios
I've tried Messing with my Bios and doing everything from turning down my ram timing, turning it up, switching Harddrives with my brother
down clocking my Geforce 3 TI 500
Reinstalling Windows, I'm running the IDE and AGP Patches from SIS/ECS and they helped but it still crashes on that one stupid thing!

Someone please help me, I've been messing with this pos for 4 months now, Thank god I got it from Frys during xmas with the processor for 100 bucks... 35 for the board and 61 for the Processor, tax made up the rest..

I just want this nightmare to end and have this problem fixed today... its my bday and I just want to have something good from it :-/

I was wondering what kind of PSU you got??? that fixed the problems...
Whats the Wattage, and the Amps?

Also if its not my PSU then what Over clockers Bios should I flash
in there? I've seen 3 sofar.... Honey X, Cheepoman, and Some other one I dont remember the name of :-/

most people get Honey X and Cheepoman though so which is best if it is the bios?

Thanks for the help guys.....

Mike C Apr 27, 2003, 10:35pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
Problem solved, installed a 400 Watt PSU of my bros and bam works perfectly now.

Eric Hvinden Apr 29, 2003, 12:18am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
80 Bucks at Fry's with a Athlon XP2000+. Chip alone costs more....I expected the board to be a joke, but went together great...Copper CPU Cooler, and 300 Watt. Windows XP Pro....Works Great....I Keep waiting for the other shoe to drop, but not yet.

c p Apr 29, 2003, 02:10am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
yes, i bought the KS75A at Fry's too with an athlon 2400($119), the default setting of the board is 100/100 mhz at that the cpu runs about 1.49Ghz only , when i set it to 133/133 , it runs at 2Ghz. thats fine , right ? but when i reboot it sometime stays, sometime doesnt, THEN sometimes it doesnt want to boot at all, then i turn it off again for a few seconds, then boots fine but with the 133 settings gone. so im running 1.49Ghz unless i change the bus speed everytime to make sure. so which has the problem.. the cpu or the board ? FYI, the specs for the board at frys says "max cpu is 1.3Ghz" for the motherboard , but they sell it with an athlon 2400. thats frys for you.

so what u think guys?
..diappointed user.

Green Lady Apr 30, 2003, 11:22am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
I have to say I agree with the article, this is a good board for a DIY beginner who wants to upgrade on a budget. I had zero trouble with it, POSTed first try, everything smooth as silk, and I had no prior experience inside the case. It was easy to find where everything was, from the mounting screw holes to the itty bitty case LED connections. It was even tolerant of slight edge bending and dropped screws (ARGH!!). Manual is very detailed and written by a native English speaker for a change.

Here's what I used:
Athlon XP 1700+
Large CoolerMaster fan/hsink (w/Arc Silver grease)
350 watt Enermax PSU (seems to be Crucial to have enuf watts)
2 sticks SD-RAM (384MB) one new, one old Dell stick
Ati Radeon 8500 Pro (AGP)
Old Creative sound card from Dell PC (PCI)
Old modem
old drives from the Dell
Win 98 SE
Generic ATX case from CompUSA

I did not overclock and it runs nice and cool. As a software person basically, I think WinXP has a lot of miserable problems and doesn't get the blame it deserves from hardware folks. I have read a lot of horror stories on a lot of boards and they mostly seem to be on XP platforms. Hmm. Anyone running Linux got a comment?
Cheers--greenie

Ali G May 01, 2003, 07:19am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
my god...
had same problem with my comp for over 2 yrs now. Duron 700mhz with gigabyte board (7zm i think). CS usually locks up between 5 seconds and 20 minutes yet sumtimes it goes for hours!?. Also other fps like quake3 crash after a while while running winamp in background. Ive changed my mobo, cpu, and finallu today my graphics card and was finally about to give up when i thought it has to be the PSU. After reading your post in which u did many of the things i tried (downclocking gcard and cpu etc) ive come to the conclusion thats its time to change my (crappy) 250watt psu . (No wonder it couldnt cope, ive got a delta cooler on my gcard, an extra exhaust fan on the back and one on the side and front aswell as on my new Radeon 9100.
Btw can sum1 explain the bit about the wattage not being as important as the amperage? Thx

c p May 01, 2003, 01:11pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
Sierra games... i play CS on it, without any problems, BUT when i play DoD or the new one "ESF", it crashes on large maps or when there are alot of players. Try the power supply ? i will try that.

When i turn on my comp, my bios goes back to 100/100mhz (from 133/133) , so my cpu (Athlon XP +2400) runs ate 1.49Ghz, so i have to go back to the bios to set it back to 133/133. then when i boot up again, settings are back to 100/100. the bios clock remais the correct time, so its not the battery.

any ideas? the board can handle that cpu, right ?

Roberto Verrocchio May 02, 2003, 10:46am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
c.p. did u try a differnt PSU?

Dan W May 02, 2003, 04:43pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A - having problems myself -- help
hello,

i'm having problems with my computer (which has the k7s5a mobo). i'm using a enermax eg301p-vb power supply (300 watts) and didn't know if i needed a better power supply or if my cpu was toast? so i guess my question is, does this sound like a psu problem or both the psu and cpu? everything was working fine a week ago. i didn't add any new hardware or anything, and have been using this computer for a year now without any problems. here's my problem i'm experiencing:

when powering on, the cd writer and dvd lights remain on all of the time

the floppy light doesn't come on at all or the floppy doesn't make the usual noise at boot-up or won't work if i stick in a floppy disk

it doesn't sound like the hard-drive is powering on

there were massive amounts of dust clumps behind the cpu fan and on the fan that i had to clean out (whatever that sectioned big square thing is called between the fan and cpu)

no video

no keyboard lights light up

my optical mouse does not have the red light

no beeps regardless if i take out the memory cards, video card and/or etc... and power on

i tried taking out the cards, battery, unplugging both the cd burner and dvd, i yelled at it, gave it the ol finger, and nothing seems to work.

any help would be greatly appreciated. i don't have tons of moola so if i could isolate the problem before having to buy one of the two (psu or cpu) that would help. but if it sounds like i need both, please let me know.


thanks for any suggestions you might have,

dan

c p May 09, 2003, 02:16am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
i changed my PSU to a 300w.

my comp sometimes doesnt boot, just powers on , but no boot. then i turn off then on again, but loose the 133/133 mhz setting. so i have to re-enter it in the bios.

happens once in awhile, annoying

Michael Watson May 09, 2003, 01:24pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
To Dan W
Sounds like a power supply failure.
With 'puter turned off, and unplugged from the mains, try disconnecting all ps cables, and reconnect to your mb, drives,peripherals, etc.
I think a 300w ps is too small.

Mike C Jun 20, 2003, 04:01am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ECS K7S5A
The Board can handle up to an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (266 FSB Versions only)

Most of you might find that you have to Flash your Bios, as only the new bios versions can handle that processor... The board works for Palomino cores and Throughbred cores (Athlon XP cores) as well as Duron's Spitfire & Morgan Cores, Athlon Thunderbird's, Pluto and Orion Cores..

If your running an Athlon XP processor with 133 MHz Ram *PC 133*, dump the ram and pick up 266 MHz PC 2100 DDR ram and then try running the 133/133 setting, You'll find that is more stable. and that windows won't lock up on start up.

100 CPU = 100 MHz - 200 Mhz FSB (will automatically set the right FSB)
133 CPU = 266 MHz FSB Processors
133 Ram = 266 MHz PC 2100 DDR RAM
100 Ram = 133 - 200 MHz Ram sticks I.E. PC 133, 150, etc. (I used to run PC 150 on this board *150 MHz Ram*)

From my Experience This board CAN'T handle PC 100 RAM

By running
100/100 on an Athlon Xp you will notice the Down clock in the processor, thats because this board uses the Front Side Bus (FSB) to clock your processor to where its supposed to be at..

100/133 on Athlon Xp processor's will Down clock your Processor but allow you to run DDR ram.
If your a Duron, Athlon Thunderbird user (Old Athlons using 100 - 200 FSB ONLY) it will clock your processor to where its supposed to be at, And allow you to use DDR ram.

133/133 Requires an avrage of 400 Watts or Greater PSU to run safely with no 3D program lock up's, On Athlon XP or Any other Athlon Processor that has 266 MHz FSB, This setting will Clock your processor to where its supposed to be at, and if you notice the 133 for ram meaning you should run DDR ram.. I had a problem in which if I dident have DDR ram on a 133/133 setting the Computer woulden't boot, or would crash while booting up... When I got the DDR RAM
(Mushkin PC 2100 266 MHz DDR) the problem was fixed, and when I got my 400 Watt PSU that fixed all other problems I had.

Most will find that the Board locks up on 3D programs, Best solution to fix this is a Better PSU, this Board requires alot of power to operate, and I wouldent recommend you run this board on the 133/133 setting without having a 400 Watt or Greater PSU and PC 2100, 266 MHz DDR RAM...

The only Exception to the 400 Watt PSU is:
If your on a older Athlon Thunderbird or Duron Core that has 200 FSB or less
In which case you would run the 100 / 100 (PC 133 or 150 ram) or 100 / 133 Setting (DDR RAM)
Then you could use a 350 Watt Power supply... and not have to worry about locking up unless your computer overheats or your Vid card overheats....
(the older cores had 100 - 133 FSB and Duron Cores don't Hit 200 FSB or above)


I run a closed case, The temperature outside is 100+ degrees (its summer time) and the Idle temp of my processor is 54 *C when I stress it with load it will jump to a max of 73 *C (when the case is dusty on the inside) If my case is clean the Max temp will only be 62 *C under heavey stress and still be stable as a rock..
If I open my case you can minus 10 - 15 * C on those above posted Temperature ratings, I use system bios and Speedfan to check my tempatures...

For those of you who missed my above post my system is running

I'm running

ECS K7S5A with latest Official Bios 02/10/29
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Palomino Core
256 MB PC2100 Mushkin DDR RAM 1 stick
Nvidia Geforce 3 TI 500, Now Overclocked
Aureal 2 Sound Card
Maxtor 10.2 GIG HD 5400 RPM 512k Buffer (Old I know)
Western Digital 5 GIG 5200 - 5400 RPM 384 K buffer, (Even older lol)
Sony 24x CDRW
1.44 Floppy
System cooler, Type that slides in a PCI slot
Stock CPU fan that came with the processor
400 Watt PSU

Your 3.3v & 5v ratings have the most to do with your crashing... If they are lower by 5% or more then you should get a better Power supply

Your 3.3v can be no lower then 3.150 (for the 5% theory)
and your 5.5v can be no lower then 4.75 (5% Theory)

Heres something else I posted
http://sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=135983

This also has the Fix, and some other stuff...

I've built over 13 Different systems, and of all the systems only 2 others have given me problems that were tough to figure out...
It took me 5 Months to Solve my problem for this board (ECS K7S5A), 5 months of reading Forums and all that other crap, I hope this helps everyone else and saves you time & trouble....

Good Luck!





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