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Mickey F. Mouse Feb 04, 2003, 06:43am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
To Eric:

When I first built my system, I tried to run the DDR memory at 200 MHz and the CPU at it's FSB speed of 133 MHz (I think). I had similar problems. Try setting your memory to sync or whatever FSB speed is the same as what your CPU runs at. A Duron probably doesn't have as fast a FSB as the memory you have, so a mismatch in the settings is the first thing that came to mind.

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Mickey F. Mouse Feb 04, 2003, 06:43am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
To Eric:

When I first built my system, I tried to run the DDR memory at 200 MHz and the CPU at it's FSB speed of 133 MHz (I think). I had similar problems. Try setting your memory to sync or whatever FSB speed is the same as what your CPU runs at. A Duron probably doesn't have as fast an FSB as the memory you have, so a mismatch in the settings is the first thing that came to mind.

Mickey F. Mouse Feb 04, 2003, 06:43am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
To Eric:

When I first built my system, I tried to run the DDR memory at 200 MHz and the CPU at it's FSB speed of 133 MHz (I think). I had similar problems. Try setting your memory to sync or whatever FSB speed is the same as what your CPU runs at. A Duron probably doesn't have as fast an FSB as the memory you have, so a mismatch in the settings is the first thing that came to mind.

This forum page is really slow...

Mickey F. Mouse Feb 04, 2003, 06:45am EST Report Abuse
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Oops, the page wasn't responding and kept giving me DNS errors. I seem to have spammed the board. I'm very sorry.

JC Bailey Feb 04, 2003, 08:35am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
this should help some of you.

i have a p4x400 soyo dragon ultra board.

agp fast writes - DISABLED (this should help with the odd artifacts/anomalies on the screen, etc..)

agp voltage from default to 1.6v.

have been running good and stable for a long time now.

:o)

Richard Doyle Feb 04, 2003, 06:30pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Orman,
Hey-- just out of curiosity, what are your other major BIOS settings set to? I've been fooling around with a lot of them, but I haven't found the right combination (obviously!) Thanks for your help,
Richard

JC Bailey Feb 04, 2003, 07:07pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700

set to normal (instead of fast or turbo)
(i think this only changes your memory cas. latency, etc..)

im running at ddr333 instead of ddr400- (not as stable),
and at 333 its faster too. ( i get higher benchmarks)

corsair xms pc3200 ddr400 memory.


1 Feb 04, 2003, 09:47pm EST Report Abuse
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Im not sure if its been brought up already but what the heck.......make sure you have a current bios flash on your board. I have already seen mentioned 2 boards that I have in combination with radeon 9700 pros that are working great with not a single hicup. All of my machines are dx9 and fully updated as well.
Try hooking up with a friend that might allow you to try your card in his machine.......I think that in the end a few of these cases could be solved to simply bad boards. Some people might have settings that need adjusting before the card will work but you should never have to diable agp fastwrite or set the agp aperture to 32mb.......this card should work at its full capacity or it should be RMA'ed.
I have 3 that work perfectly in 3 different high end systems. I just talked a lan buddy into getting one for himself......it arrived and we did the usual instalation proceedure (uninstall old then reinstall new) but the dang thing didnt work. I swapped it with one of the cards I had and it works great......but his card never worked on any machine I tested.
So maybe they just have a bad batch floating around that needs to be recalled. That would sure explain why a few people rma'ed then switched with a new card and still had the same problem. Same batch? Bought from the same online store right? Then that is a possibility!

JC Bailey Feb 05, 2003, 08:41am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700

i have to turn off agp fast writes to get this thing actually stable,
and if you read above (very far above) i believe this helped other people,
if somone out there has the same setup i do and is running fine, with
agp fast writes enabled let me know, i get white spots on the background
in windows and the screen is kind of flakey. i dont have issues after
doing those things mentioned above (which i got the advice from this
list anyhow)

soyo dragon p4x400 platinum ultra
corsair pc3200 ddr400 (running at ddr333)
ati 9700 pro (agp voltage set to 1.6v)
400watt p/s

thanks.

1 Feb 05, 2003, 09:59am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
here are some boards that I have or have had in combo with the radeon 9700pro built by card.

MSI k7t266pro2aru
Gigabyte Ga-7vrxp
MSI kt3ultra
MSI kt4ultra
MSI kt4vl (junk dont buy one) have 2
soyo kt333 platinum
soyo kt4 platinum
Asus a7n8x deluxe

Have you checked your current bios version to confirm that it is indeed the latest one? Flashing the bios is nowhere as hard as they make it seem with all the warnings.
By the way (little off topic).....I found out last night that you can hot swap plc32 chips to revive dead boards. Just fire up a good board and use it to get into the flash program.....just before you finalize the flash pop out the good bios chip and insert the bad one, then flash away.
I learned this when MSI had a typo on thier site indicated a wrong bios for a board. n
The hot swap worked wonders and I have been able to revive 3of my friends boards and one of mine by doing this. On the other hand have you tried your card in a friends system? That could end your agony!

stevetabb Feb 05, 2003, 08:35pm EST Report Abuse
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OK, I finally got my machine to run 3DMark2001 without crashing after 3 months... Read some of the earlier posts and installed Radeonator 2.0. This is the way to go as far as my problem goes, though I'm not sure why I should have to underclock my Radeon 9700 Pro to get it to run stable.
I set both clock speeds to 297.00 MHz and no lockups so far.

Asus A7V8X
Athlon XP 2400+
Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro
512MB Corsair DDR 3200
Soundblaster Audigy
Locke Cole Feb 06, 2003, 12:58pm EST Report Abuse
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Can anyone tell me how to change AGP voltage on a MSI 694D Pro board? Its not a bios setting but perhaps something like wpcedit would do it?

Johannes Rumpf Feb 07, 2003, 04:33pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Hi@all,

i'm feeling so much in common with you guys...

I'd ordered the Dell 4550 with this Radeon 9700 and i've thought
"i hope the're no probs" cause a several years ago i had a ati graphic-card and the problems with this f** drivers driven me mad...

So.. Back to topic

My Radeon runs since X-Mas very well (sometimes with lags as described above, but nothing that hurts)...

A view installations und XP updates later -- today -- 2d is ok
3d -- the computer hangs on.. .nothing ..

I do the installations... old driver from Dell.. new Catalyst Driver from Ati...

But nothing...

I's realy a ATI Problem that they allways produce such *incredible* Drivers.. I hate this ... really...

So, i hope i'll get it...

1 Feb 07, 2003, 09:23pm EST Report Abuse
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assuming you are using xp.........look in your add/remove software.....you should see the microsft updates that were added in there. From there you can either uninstall the sulprit update or just do a system restore to before you updated. If that works then maybe share which update it was with these guys!

Mathiau Feb 08, 2003, 02:07am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Just curious, did you ever fresh format after installing the new card form the old one?

i always do this with most any major hardware change (mobo / vid / sound)


can solve alot of problems and eliminate many other "possible" ones.

Mickey F. Mouse Feb 08, 2003, 02:41am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
After posting that I raised the AGP voltage to 1.6 or 1.7, I lowered the AGP voltage to 1.5 (the default) after that because the card would reboot my system after a couple of hours of using a 3D game. I put cheap passive heat sinks on the memory chips on the card, and bought a cheap fan-thing that goes where a PCI card might go, and that helps to keep the heat down. I'm not overclocking the card, of course.

It's great to be able to play any game at 1600 x 1200!

Sosicc BLuHDsHeD Feb 08, 2003, 03:37am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Well i have a ATI 9700pro Run on a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra... everthing runs fine, i play unreal t2k3, it will play fine, then down the line if wont play no more.... ever time i try to load game it locks up on me, so i put mohaa on it and evertime it trys to load map it lock up on me... anybody know why? ( it play str8 bout like 1hour later it will never work agian)

=(

1 Feb 08, 2003, 11:13am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
virus scan might be helpfull since it sounds more like corrupt files to me.

Sosicc BLuHDsHeD Feb 09, 2003, 12:43am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Well i did that now i get...

Critical Error

<?int?Udebugger.General.Abbreviation?> Build UT2003_Build_[2003-01-23_16.56]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 2085 MHz with 511MB RAM
Video: No Video

General protection fault!

History: MainLoop

Dave Carpenter Feb 09, 2003, 03:01am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Well I finally got it stable with 8x AGP and Fastwrites enabled. I'll share it with you. I changed the ram timings as follows this is the Gigabyte GA7VAX BIOS F9, Using GEIL PC3200 w/copper heat spreader Original SPD setting were
CAS 2.0
4 Bank (interleave)
3T
6T/8T
3T
4
4Level
1T Command
3T
3T

New settings are:
CAS 2.5
(interleave)DISABLED
3T
7T/10T
3T
2Level
2T Command
3T
3T

These timings are rock solid with my games, Quake 3, Mohha, Spearhead,RTCW, Battlefield 1942, Americas Army, AVP2, Max Payne.
But I have still noticed just an occasional hic up tho....
Hope this may Help some of yourKT400 chipset probs.

Gigabyte GA-7VAX Rev 1.1 w/VIA Hyperion 4in1445
Athlon XP2600+ @333 (not overclocked) w/Volcano 8 HSF
1 512mb stick GEIL PC3200 @Cas2 clk2 1t w/copper HS at Slot 1
OCSystem Radeon 9700pro w/ramsinks and blue orb. ver 1.0 (Ithink)
Catalyst 3.0 (7.81) w/control panel.
30 gig Maxtor Diamond Max Plus 7200rpm 2mb cache with 2/2-20mm fans (IDE Master0)
Sony 52x CD Rom (IDE master 1)
Onboard AC97 5.1 sound (Realtek ALC650) w/update
Altec Lansing 5.1 Surround Speader System
Onboard LAN Realtek RTL8100BL w/update
Sylvania F97 19" Monitor
USR ISDN pro TA Terminal Adapter (usb)
Win98SE





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