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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jun 30, 2003, 11:40pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Seems Like Peeps are getting bad luck that is, I have my FSB overclocked, dont want to mess with the Graphics until i get better fan unit for it and some more case fans

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
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1 Jun 30, 2003, 11:53pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
awsome....glad to hear that! Now you can truelly enjoy the thrill of massive frame rates! :-)

I know alot of first release boards needed revisions to be 100percent compatible but Ive even used an ancient msi k7t266pro 2 with these cards and it worked great....they werent 8x though....but really Ive benched both ways and there is little difference between 8x and 4x.

Jackie Chan Jun 30, 2003, 11:54pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
QUIT REPLYING YOU PIECES OFs**t IT KEEPS COMING TO MY EMAIL

1 Jul 01, 2003, 12:39am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
you jackie if you had half a brain you would simply unsubscribe....after that last post dont even think of asking how...!

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jul 01, 2003, 11:28pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Jack U dumbass, U aint no Real Jackie Chan, u need to STFU, Oh By the Way its Ur Freaking Fault for Signing up with Hardware Analysis so go Screw Urself and Find a way of Unsuscribing urself. Im Not going to tell u since ur a Damned CU/\/+.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jul 01, 2003, 11:31pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
oh and Jack to Unsubcribe U need to RTFM and shove it up ur @55!

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
1 Jul 01, 2003, 11:57pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Jackie the not so chan
I second that....anyone else......poll? :-)

Lurian de Vertiemont Jul 02, 2003, 12:04am EDT Report Abuse
>> Jackie Fag !!!
You are just a FAG.... JACKIE THE FAG !!!!

UNSCRIBE YOUR ASS !!!!!!!!

Henry Martin Jul 02, 2003, 12:08am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
LOL, looks like I'm not the only one with too much time on my hands!:)

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ben woods Jul 02, 2003, 12:29pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
w00t, im the 700th responder!



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DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3800+

ECS KN1 Extreme / KN1 SLI Extreme / nForce4-A754 / nForce4-A939

2048 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)

NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT (256 MB)

Creati
1 Jul 02, 2003, 05:58pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
seeing as how now this card has become a moment in history and this thread is the longest in history....I think we should rename it the 9800problem thread and see where it goes???? Ya know....just keep in running for record sake! :-)

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jul 03, 2003, 12:58am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
na, seems like there are way less problems with that card than this card, 2nd gens always seem to be better, but i dont care now since ive got system running at full power hehe. This card is great.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
1 Jul 03, 2003, 02:20am EDT Report Abuse
>> 9800pro 256 then,
first problem........they dont run the caps through the dang board so where do you measure the vref and vddr with the ddr2 setup??????? This is a big problem cause noway am I going to mod the ddr without knowing the voltage! :-( till then Im stuck with 21k3dmarks!

ben woods Jul 03, 2003, 04:34pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
Dude, thats the highest score I've every seen, whats yer setup?



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DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3800+

ECS KN1 Extreme / KN1 SLI Extreme / nForce4-A754 / nForce4-A939

2048 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)

NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT (256 MB)

Creati
ben woods Jul 03, 2003, 04:37pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
is the 9800 better than the 9700 pro?



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DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3800+

ECS KN1 Extreme / KN1 SLI Extreme / nForce4-A754 / nForce4-A939

2048 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)

NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT (256 MB)

Creati
1 Jul 03, 2003, 06:18pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
well, it is definately however Im affraid the additional cost may not justify purchasing one if you already own a 9700pro. Im using the 256 version which didnt really have full support untill the 3.5 drivers came out but now its smokin'. It still only scores about 1,000 points more then my 9700pro though. Both are overclocked however I havent figured out the ddr2 overclocking yet. Cant figure out where to measure the voltage since the caps dont run through the board the way they do on the 9700 and standard 9800. So I guess it also depends on how you plan to use it. If you are going to overclock it then definately go for the 9800pro...if you really dont care and just want good performance then the 9700pro is great!
Using an 80 watt peltier and sufficient fans I have been able to clock the following rates with zero artifacts;
9700pro 462/364@1.82v
9800pro 256- 525/405@1.79v

1 Jul 03, 2003, 06:25pm EDT Report Abuse
>> ben asked whats my setup???
you can see it here:http://www.docmodgod.com

Once again to admin, I sell nothing, dont own a store or anything like that, and I have no advertising to make money from....this is just my homepage with a stupid name that I will get rid of soon!

I do however have links to various stores where I got the parts and then some links to warn you about some bad guys!

is this okay sander??? If not then pm me please.

system: xp2800+@2832mhz,9800pro256@525/405,8rga (not plus) with mcw50t on the NB....etc.

M X Jul 03, 2003, 09:10pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
I GOT IT! I GOT IT! I GOT IT!

So I've had the same problems as EVERYONE here with the 9700 Pro shutting down during some 3D Games. For those of you who DON"T already know - ATI is officiallyy listing the 9700 Pro as a legacy product (so DON'T buy one). But for those of us who shelled out $300+ for them when they first came out - I have a solution for you!

I read everything on here about heat, voltage, drivers, bios, etc... I tried them all (and even some engineering things NOT listed here). Using 3Dmark03 (and some other sniffer and trace software) I found out the problem was with ATI's SMARTGART utility (and contacted ATI). They NOW have a patch to remove the SMARTGART portion from their control panel on their website (it's under drivers at the bottom of the page - very innocent looking since they don't want to admit fault of any kind) - BUT removing the SMARTGART alone didn't work for me... So here's what I found DOES work:

If you are doing a CLEAN install of XP - DON"T load the ATI control panel - just load the DRIVERS ONLY. XP and your Motherboard will control things just fine at the full 8X speed. Leave it alone.

For those of us where a clean install of XP is a headache, set your options in the ATI control panel where you want them (I.e. fast write and 8X) - then simply UNINSTALL the ATI control panel. It will remember all your 8X, OpenGL, and Direct3D settings from the left over registry entries... AND work without lock ups.

(Nice uninstall ATI - my sarcasm knows no bounds...)

Now you can play all your problem games (Enter the Matrix, The Thing, etc) at the FULL 8X card speed. For those of you who are curious - I hit 3225 3DMarks (in version '03).

Obviously this is primarily for GAMING. If you need to make ATI specific control panel changes (like hydravision), you'll have to reinstall the control panel to make your change and UNINSTALL it again before playing 3D.

It's a pain - I know, but (I'm told) ATI is working on the issue. Good luck and good games!

Gigabyte SINXP1394
P4/3.06 Ghz
1GB Corsair DDR400
Windows XP Pro
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (NOW working at 8X!)
SB Audigy 2

1 Jul 03, 2003, 09:38pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
3225...dont speak to quickly though....3225 is horrible considering the system you have in your signature. Something is definately wrong there. I mean even stock with a 2700+ (2.16) and 9700pro I was scoring high 5's. You should be able to cream that score by far. Try running pcmark and seeing if something else might be wrong other then the vga?

M X Jul 03, 2003, 09:39pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon 9700
My apologies for several of the typos...

My 3DMark03 score was 6225 and NOT 3225


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