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varun rao Jan 19, 2005, 06:44am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
did anybody even read what I just posted?? :D

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D Harley Jan 19, 2005, 10:23am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
Soooo much opinion and sooooo little fact. Didn't see links to any reputable sites that benchtest to support the brainwashed AMD user delusion's regarding video. Here's one thats legit and unbiased.
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041221/cpu_charts-18.html

Still looking for bechtest results for overclocking as that would provide some interesting data as well.
Got links?? Put up! Got only opinion?? Shut up!! ;-)

Brian Stewart Jan 19, 2005, 12:39pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
Sean, you're talking about ramdrives that use a pci slot?
LOL!

You're supposed to use the main system ram!
The PCI bus is SO much slower!

MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum
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Athlon 64 4600+
6800 GT
Sean B Jan 19, 2005, 12:59pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
No, Brian.

Again, you distort the f**k out of everything I say.

I am merely providing Rory with an example of technology that defends that ramdrives not only exist, but are prevalent for high performance servers and workstations.

Did you fail to read the large paragraph I wrote, comparing the AMD and Intel memory bandwidths and then reflecting on how that effects encoding using a ramdrive?

Do you have a full length mirror and tape recorder in your room that you use to argue with yourself? Most people don't get off on going out of their way to patronize someone, especially when they don't know what they're talking about.

A full uncompressed video source will fit in 15GB of ram, let alone 11. I use seperate streams for video and audio, like any professional would do. You virtually can't work with 5.1 DTS or Dolby if the video is part of the file... it just isn't efficient.

Furthermore, I wasn't implicating that chapters are manually created by dividing up the file, but rather that each chapter is an individually encoded portion of video that later gets rejoined and I-frames are added.

Stfu and get your facts straight before you accuse someone of lying.

Theodore Jan 19, 2005, 03:12pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
I'm no computer expert and everything I say is just my own opinion. I used to have an Intel 3.0c Northwood Processor and now I have the AMD64 Socket 939 3200+ overclocked to 2.4ghz. I really like the AMD64 better but that's because I use my computer mainly for gaming and since I got the AMD I've been getting 5-10 more fps in all my games including Doom 3 (61.7 fps 1280x1024 2AA 8AF Ultra Mode). However, I felt that the Intel Pentium 4 was a lot more faster in installing software and loading windows. I really love both Intel and AMD and I don't see one being THAT much better than the other so just get the one that's cheaper.

Brian Stewart Jan 19, 2005, 03:23pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
Moron.
The example I gave was woithout any audio

24 bits per pixel
720 by 480 pixels per frame
23.976 frames per second (NTSC FILM STANDARD)

That has NO audio.

And look moron, you DID say exactly that you split up the files and then encoded them!

Oh, and since you can't answer me, that quote I gave was from PAGE 1 of the Scenarist manual, the INDUSTRY STANDARD for DVD authoring.

I know for a FACT that you are a liar,
I have read other forums with you on it, as teqguy, it seems no one seems to like you anywhere.
http://www.google.com/search?q=teqguy&btnG=Search&hl=e...p;safe=off

One of your glorious quotes
"Opterons are not workstation processors, neither are the Athlon64's.


If you want a workstation processor, Intel is the way to go."

"If you want to compare clock for clock, the Xeon wins.

If you want to compare peformance, the Xeon still wins."

"All of the multiprocessor boards and chipsets are for the Opterons,
which cost twice as much as a Xeon and still can't compare."

"The only way the Athlon 64 can win is if you find a multiprocessor
system, which doesn't exist for the Athlon..."

"You can have a multiprocessor system of up to 8 processors with the
Xeon. Not to mention you can use RDRAM or DDRAM.

The Opterons only offer 2 or 4 processor boards, and they require DDR
ECC memory... which is insanely expensive if you're looking at 4GB
DIMMS, and even then it doesn't run in Dual Channel mode."

An Opteron system can be 8-way.
ECC memory is a MUST for any server/workstation.
And RDRAM is insanely expensive itself.
And the Opteron blows the Xeon and Itanium and everything else away.

Man, you have fanboy written all over you.
And you lie.
I've done tons of video editing and encoding on my pc, and I know for a fact how it's done.
I know how the pros do it, and it's the same way I do it.
Anyone who's ever worked with editing video knows that the encoding process takes only a small fraction of the time that the rest of the work does.

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6800 GT
PCGEEK Jan 19, 2005, 03:24pm EST Report Abuse
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varun rao Jan 19, 2005, 04:02pm EST Report Abuse
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ACK!.. still fighting!!!.......

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Maestro Jan 19, 2005, 07:15pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
guys, come on, stop fighting...
what happened to forums being helpful and beneficial???
if you're happy with your machine, then good for you
stop imposing your opinions on others...
stick to the topic and stop bickering...
it's getting rather tiresome..
and, thanks sean for the help with the posting of new threads, really appreciate it...

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Adam J Jan 19, 2005, 09:25pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
What about the people that had AMD and switched to Intel? :-)

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PCGEEK Jan 19, 2005, 09:43pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
look its cool its a free world every one has the right to use what they want. im done with this fighting crap sorry its goten out of controle.

OCGW Jan 19, 2005, 10:07pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
Only ram drives I've seen worked on the IDE bus

There are some that work on the PCI bus too?

OCGW

WORLD PEACE

Theodore Jan 19, 2005, 10:10pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
Both Intel Pentium and AMD Athlon are great processors. Is there a rule that says you HAVE to like one and not the other? If you have an AMD good for you. If you have an Intel P4 good for you too. As I said before I think both processors are just great! Heck, now that I think about it, I don't even know IF AMD is better for gaming! I went from Intel P4 3.0 to AMD Athlon 3200+ and oc-ed to AMD 3800+ speed. I bet if I got an Intel 3.8Ghz (If they exist) I would have gotten a nice fps boost as well. Stop hating on either CPUs, they are both great and I doubt one is THAT much better than the other, otherwise there wouldn't be all these threads with ppl arguing over which one is better.
Lets just forget about AMD and Intel and argue over who's hotter between Nicole Kidman and Kate Beckinsale. LOL!

PCGEEK Jan 19, 2005, 10:18pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
yep true now lets not speak of this any more people come here for help. I think its important we give them a objective answer with out the bickering

Lost Faith Jan 20, 2005, 03:50am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
sean B is so funny... lmao!!!

still I admire his intel dedication.

but I won't back him for gold.

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Brian Kuhlman Jan 20, 2005, 04:53am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
My extent of video editing is ripping dvds, bad me i know...anyway i have had p4 3.2e
all the way back to a 486dx...Amd from a 233Mhz...to amd 64 3400+ and all i can say is that in all those systems AMD was more stable all the way around and Intels are not..AMD has done better with stability while keeping speed where as INTEL is Burnning up chips to just stay a little bit ahead...

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wd raptor sata80gb


SuPeR Xp Jan 21, 2005, 01:58am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
AMD Athlon 64's will do a better & more stable job than the P4's.

If you happen to get a Prescott, keep a Fire extinguisher handy.

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Dan F Feb 01, 2005, 05:50am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
This is a little late i know but...

I am currently researching a replacement machine for my video and audio work...

Firstly - A debate such as this gains nothing by having those contributing carry out personalised attacks on the characters and opinions of others involved..

<sniP> Please refrain from personal attacks and flaming. The primary objective of these forums is to provide technical advice, discussion and problem resolution. <snip>

some might recognise the above from the guidlines on posting a reply. If not from there, then perhaps from something some people refer to as maturity. Not a lot going on in this debate.

I came here for some constructive information but am finding it quite a struggle to distinguish between peoples' personal battles whether it be for or against AMD or Pentium.

For such a debate, perosnal experience, knowledge and facts tend to speak for themselves. Oh, and of course people have their personal preferences for a variety of in many cases, VALID reasons.

cheers.

SuPeR Xp Feb 01, 2005, 03:43pm EST Report Abuse
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D Harley Feb 01, 2005, 06:25pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Athlon 64 or Pentium 4: Video Editing
Awe common Supe. It's Gaming & Application(file compression) where the AMD excels. P4's got it in Video and Audio(FX-55 does take top spot in audio but the rest is P4) according to these benchmarks.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041221/cpu_charts-18.html

Common buddy, ya gotta show benchmarks if your gonna start rufflin' P4 feathers(again,lol), in the Video & Audio dept.especially. ;-)


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