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Poseidon Feb 19, 2005, 04:39pm EST Report Abuse
Should I buy the Athlon 64 3500+ right now with an nForce 4 Ultra say a MSI or the new DFI or should I wait for the new Socket 939 A64 3700+ 90nm with SSE3?

Oh, and please I work with P4's, P5's & another CPU which I cannot reveal the new name everyday, so don't ask me why I am going AMD O.K.
It's 100% obvious anyway.


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SuPeR Xp Feb 19, 2005, 05:26pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Well, how desperate are you? The 3500+ is the best bang for buck right now, but the 3700+ w/ SSE3 sounds sweet too.

Is money an issue? If not then get the 3500+ right now with an nForce 4 Ultra mobo, then when the 3700+ comes out, you can decide if you want to upgrade.

What's with the name ANYWAY?

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Daniel Gibbon Feb 20, 2005, 12:14pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
ohhh it may be nothing but if you where a engineer who worked for intel then you should know everything about cpu's so you would know which cpu is better the 3700 or the 3500. You would also know whether to wait or not. Also i dont think you have worked with p5's no offence as i dont even think they exist within intel. Also if you are a cpu engineer you would need extremely good qualifications so why have you spelt Corporation wrong which is a childs mistake. Although i may be wrong if i am i apologise.

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PCGEEK Feb 20, 2005, 12:41pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
humm Im thinking we are being played here. Some one is board or layed off.

SuPeR Xp Feb 21, 2005, 12:29am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Just get the 3500+ & like I said before, you can always go for the 3700+ or even the 4200+ seing that you are making the $Moola$ working for Intel ;)

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Diablos Feb 22, 2005, 11:27am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
No wonder Intel has been doing so poorly recently. The people they've hired to work on their CPUs cant even tell which cpu is worth their money.

SuPeR Xp Feb 22, 2005, 12:17pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Your telling me. Listen, I don't think you want to set off this Picky guy, he was having heated debates with the Sean B.

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Diablos Feb 23, 2005, 07:47am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Ahuh? And what is your point?

Tony N Feb 23, 2005, 09:38am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Yea like he said.. the reason hes buying an AMD is 100% obvious.. Intel CPUs are CRAP!!!! HAHAHAHAH Look at the P4 6xx series just released for instance.. They STILL cant catch the Athlon64s/FXs on most benchmarks.. and 2MB of L2 Cache... What a waste! hardly any apps out there can make use of it.. its just great for boring memory benchmarks hahahahaha

And as for P5... As said earlier.. I highly doubt it exists.. or will EVER exist.. from what ive read.. Im guessing Intel will dump the Pentium name with the dual-core chips coming out soon.. and from that point Pentium will be something you read about in history books...

Chris G Feb 23, 2005, 10:11am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Haha! I have the 3500+ dude and I guarantee you I can keep up with the 600 series Intel P4's when my processor is OC'ed like it is now. I am beating the 4000+ stock in benchmarks right now. The 3500+ Winchester is the best bang for the buck, as stated earlier. Also, the DFI Lanparty NF4 socket 939 boards are the best if you know a lot about settings because the bios is complicated.

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Chris G Feb 23, 2005, 10:24am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Pinky T, if you work for Intel, tell Craig Barrett that I said he needs to speed thing's up. BTW, I heard Craig Barrett got on his knees and appologized that he couldn't release the 4.0Ghz P4! ROFL

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/10068421.htm

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SuPeR Xp Feb 23, 2005, 11:16am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?

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PCGEEK Feb 23, 2005, 11:24am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
I think it would be fun to put a P4 system runing 3.6 Ghz to 4.2 Ghz range next to mine and see how close they realy are.

Poseidon Feb 23, 2005, 12:00pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Wow, thank you all for the replies. I have to make a correction, there is another design in the works, but we all just call it Pentium 5 right now. This design far exceeds a Pentium 5 and will most likely be called something like a Pentium 6 seeing that AMD will also easily defeat our current Pentium 5 design.

I may work for Intel, but by all means there quality has gone down. But try telling that to people which buy there products. Keep buying I mean, it keeps me employed for now.
And I am disappointed with AMD, because they have not gotten back to me regarding my application. I am interested in working on there dual core setups.

I will wait for the 3700+ or 4200+.

Thanks for all the help.


The GREEKS - Agamemnon, King of Argos (the most powerful leader in Greece)
Achilles, the son of Peleus and Thetis
Odysseus, King of Ithaca
Menelaus, King of Sparta
Telamonian Ajax, 2nd greatest Greek warrior after Achilles etc.
Chris G Feb 23, 2005, 07:34pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Pinky T, why don't you just stay with Intel if you honestly do work there. They need all the help they can get :D

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Sonoma chipset
256MB NVIDIA 6800 Go Graphics (PCI-E)
512MB DDR2 *533Mhz* Dual Channel
Wireless/Bluetooth (A,B and G)
60GB 7,200RPM Hard Drive
Poseidon Mar 06, 2005, 01:14pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Hey, how is that DFI LanParty nF4 Ultra -D motherboard doing? How is the overclocking with that make? And PCGEEK & SuperXP, do you recommend ATI or NVIDIA. I don't care about overclocking, all I want is the best deal for my money.

How is the X800 XL ? & how is the 6600GT or 6800GT which of these three is the best for price/performance?

P.S. Screw Intel, and all there monopolising bullshit. They never treat us good & all they care about is releasing low-grade low quality CPU's with an expensive name.

And screw AMD for not returning my call regarding my resume I sent them several months ago. I'll try now for IBM. ATI & NVIDIA. I know mys**t when it comes to CPU's.


The GREEKS - Agamemnon, King of Argos (the most powerful leader in Greece)
Achilles, the son of Peleus and Thetis
Odysseus, King of Ithaca
Menelaus, King of Sparta
Telamonian Ajax, 2nd greatest Greek warrior after Achilles etc.
OCGW Mar 06, 2005, 01:34pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Please delete

OCGW Mar 06, 2005, 01:36pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
Why are you guy even humoring this dude?

If he really worked for intel he would get a BIG DISCOUNT

Throwing the entire (AMD price/performance equation) superiority OUT THE WINDOW

Do you all really think a Intel employee would pay EXTRA, to build a AMD?, yeah that would REALLY WIN POINTS AROUND THE OFFICE

Humoring Looney Tunes, just makes them worse

Edit: Isn't Intel engineering in New Mexico, In the United States

Pretty looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong commute from Greece to New Mexico

Yep, Intel Greece is a sales, & marketing office

http://www.intel.com/jobs/Greece/

http://www.intel.com/jobs/greece/sites/athens.htm

OCGW

PEACE

SuPeR Xp Mar 06, 2005, 04:07pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
I think he said in one of his posts that he is using Greece & Pinky to disguise himself so that Intel won't recognize him or something.

Weird guy, but seems to know this stuff according to my research & what he was saying.

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Adam J Mar 06, 2005, 04:20pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
There's nothing wrong with an Intel Pentium 4 6xx series. It is actually a really nice processor. The 5xx series was crap and rushed, I'll admit that. But the 6xx is a huge improvement. Ya, it still can't beat AMD in the gaming section but who gives a crap. If you get 10fps more than me in a game I could care less. It'll still run any game perfectly fine. And face it, when it comes to games the videocard is more important. The 925xe chipset is also very very nice and allows a lot of overclocking room!

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SuPeR Xp Mar 06, 2005, 04:43pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: A64 3500 OR A64 3700 w/SSE3?
I agree Adam, but I think it's more than 10FPS, but who cares right?

I'm cool with that. Have you seen the review about the Athlon 64 FX-55 @ 2.60GHz slaughtering an Intel 660 @ 5.20GHz?

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/reviews/article/1787/

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