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Armageddon Feb 20, 2005, 01:45pm EST Report Abuse
I wonder if anyone can shed some light in to my situation: I recently put a system together (system description follows below), and to this date and despite driver updates it remains slow in comparison with even theoretically slower systems with slower video cards. When I overclock, it is even slower! Not only that but my new PX-716 is spitting out coaster CDs, where my regular Plextor Premium CD burner works fine with CDs (I'm not even going to bother with DVDs until I figure it out).
Drivers at this point: Nforce 6.39, Nvidia 67.66 (Beta), Win XPpro (sp2) updated.
I get scores of 12,656 in 3Dmark2001 SE, around 5200 in 05, and 03 has a problem with my Beta graphics driver. I get blown away by non-oc'd non-SLI sytems, and some of those with 9800XT cards! Gameplay is dreadfull and BF 1942 (SWOWWII, Vietnam) are so jerky that they are unplayable!
Thank you in advance to whoever will take the time to help me with my system problems.

MB: Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI
VC: 2x GIGABYTE 6600GTS (SLI working according to the Nvidia driver)
RAM: 2x OCZ 1G (value edition 3-3-3 I think?)
HD: 1 WD 10K 74GB
1 PX-716A, 1 PX-708A, 1 Plexwriter Premium CD burner
PS: Thermaltake 680W


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Josh Little Feb 20, 2005, 02:25pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
I have that same system, besides my gfx card is a different brand. (Look below to see my specs) I ahve one 6600GT and my system flies even wiht my slow ram and sh*t*y hard drive. I can set all games to max res. and everything else. One problem is that in sli u can change the setting of how u want sli to work. Theres alternate frames and some other thing, I dont no for sure. I know u need the patch for the game to play it in sli. This probably isnt to helpful to you but it may give you and idea of what ur looking at.

My System:
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+
- ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe WiFi nForce 590 SLI
- G.SKILL 4GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 800
- EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 SUPERCLOCKED
- Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000rpm
- Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM Storage HD
Armageddon Feb 20, 2005, 07:38pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
I went trough the settings again, and by setting multi-GPU in the performance box it now lets me play BF without the annoying jerkiness. I still think the system is way too slow for the components its made off though.

OCGW Feb 20, 2005, 09:27pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
3D 05' max w/ (2) of those cards @ FM is about 7K even, if I remember correctly

You are on the right track, I gained over 1000 points by finding the right drivers

I started out @ 3700 points, now I score 5500 points in 3D 05'

Takes awhile

OCGW

PEACE

Josh Little Feb 20, 2005, 11:51pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
Can u tell me how you did that?

My System:
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+
- ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe WiFi nForce 590 SLI
- G.SKILL 4GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 800
- EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 SUPERCLOCKED
- Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000rpm
- Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM Storage HD
Armageddon Feb 21, 2005, 01:07am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
Josh, if you're asking me, go to your display properties>advanced>geforce 6600GT>Performance & quality settings>SLI rendering and select Multi-GPU rendering rather than single. It was rather elementery, and I don't know how it escaped my attention in the first place, other than it might have come as an option with the Nvidia Beta drivers only.
Thanks GrandWizard, I think I'm following the same path, given that I managed the same 5500 in '05.
I still can't figure out how similar 3.2 P4s (they don't list as OC'd) with worst video cards, can get 24000+ in 3Dmark2001SE. Maybe they ARE OC'd but are not listed as such?

OCGW Feb 21, 2005, 02:39am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
You gotta' try them new drivers,I'm running the newest beta's

Forceware 71.80, I scored second highest w/ 71.21 for me

I am jackin' up my gpu core, & mem w/ Coolbits (fan set to always on)

AA. & AF to application control

I got my 12v set to max (on my Antec True Control 550)

I got the 5v set to max (w/ my Antec True Control 550)

I got the 3.3v set to max(w/ my Antec True Control 550)

I got +.1v on gpu core (in BIOS)

I got +.1v on DIMM (in BIOS)

I got +.1v on vcore (in BIOS)

DIMM CAS knocked down from 3.0 to 2.5 (in BIOS)

case fan blowin' directly on gfx card

molex dedicated to gfx card (nothing else on it)

All programs controlled from starting up w/ PC Magazines utility Start Up Cop

All unecessary services disabled (msconfig) (Black Viper)

Booting from Raptor

Plenty of "space" around gfx card HSF

System tweaks from Fresh Devices

Sytem tweaks from PC Magazines Registry Robot

Even setting your gfx card to (render extra frames ahead can help)

I disable all OB hardware that I don't use regular, (LPT port, serial port, firewire port, IDE controllers that I am not using

OCGW

PEACE



Josh Little Feb 21, 2005, 03:28am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
can u ge me a link to the 71.w/e divers?

My System:
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+
- ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe WiFi nForce 590 SLI
- G.SKILL 4GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 800
- EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 SUPERCLOCKED
- Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000rpm
- Seagate 250GB 7200 RPM Storage HD
mothow Feb 21, 2005, 08:38am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
guru3d.com

ASRock Z97 Extreme 4 / i7 4790K / Corsair H80i / 4x4GB Crucial Ballistix Smart Tracer DDR3 1600 / 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black / 240GB Mushkin Chronos Deluxe SSD / 2x Evga GTX 670 FTW 2GB in SLI / Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty / Corsair HX1000w
THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK Feb 21, 2005, 09:07am EST Report Abuse
>> Re:12,000 is close to offical tested results.Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
I HAVE TWO YEAR OLD SYSTEM (AMD 2600+ XP ON BOARD 64MB GRAPHIC), SO ITS WELL BELOW 7,000 ON '05 TESTS I'M SURE, I NOTICED WORKSTATION DUAL OPTERONS WITH SLI CARDS DO ABOUT 35,000 IN '05 TESTS WHILE DESKTOP ONE FX-55 WITH SLI CARDS ARE ABOUT 14,000. SO I REALLY BELIEVE YOUR EXPECTING TOO MUCH. JERKINESS MADE ME THINK OF SHORTED MAINBOARD (LOOK FOR CARBON) OR INCOMPATIBLE SOFTWARE, YET IT WAS JUST SIMPLE SETTING THING THAT HAS JUST ARRIVED. I SIT AT ~4,000?, SO JUST BE HAPPY & KEEP "BURNING IN" YOUR TOY, ITS GONNA TO BE AWHILE BEFORE WORKSTATION DOUBLE DUALIES GET HERE, WHEN SCORES START APPROACHING 60,000.THEN: "I'LL COOK WITH GAS".
SIGNED:PHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D.

Rory Witham Feb 21, 2005, 09:35am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
NICE CAPS LOCK!

Dual desktops are here already even quads, see the site link!
I got 45** in 05 running a 3200+@2.35Ghz gainward 6600GT 545/1068 Gigabyte K8NF-9 Cheap and good DDR (the system ram better on the cheap stuff???)

I have seen that these boards are running SLOW, it would be an Idea to reflash to the F1 Bios as there has been reports on the F2 making the board crap.. there is alot a F3 hiding around on the web somewhere.. search for my board and overclocking there was a link on one of the sites.. (its a fourm site with a grey back ground) I lost the links sorry..

I dont know what is wrong with the boards but they are running SLOW... It could be that the RAM settings under MIB isnt correct, I did see that My ram SPD were incorrect and I had to do them My self.
Make sure you have the DDR-FSB set correcly, and get clockgen to check it, You may be running your ram alot slower than it should be thus lowering performance..

If its not running well then set up the mobo manually, I find that I get better performance this way. I have got a Issue with clocking mine due to the PSU and there is NO Power conectors for the PCi-express either on the cards or the MOBO?? I am not sure if you have this or not?


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OCGW Feb 21, 2005, 05:43pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK, I hate to be the "bearer of bad news" but,

Gfx cards have advanced way faster than any other computer component lately

You will find that your OB gfx will only score in the 3 digit range

OCGW

PEACE


THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK Feb 21, 2005, 08:01pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
Thanks for reply you two. 2.)Mine checked out at about 3,300 to be exact.1.) Also that gaming computer website, I believe, you will find its mainboard has nvidia 3 chipset, its sounds powerful, yet as stated, things have changed quite bit.Lastly,for whomever started this thread, on speed problem, most mainboards, well all except one tyan I read of, when sli cards are inserted, DO NOT run at pci e16x, mainboard manufacturers use chips that cut data rate back, as technology hasn't advanced in desktop yet to "true" pci-e16x for each slot. So when you expected higher performance number, perhaps you don't realize your sli configuration is running at agp 8x speed on each card. Also I thought of one other potential problem with that "stuttering" while gaming, maybe you have VOLTAGE irregularity, check bios, see if all voltages are stable, not wobbling. Wobbling may be bad power supply or "burnt" part(s).ALOHA.
SIGNED:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D.

OCGW Feb 21, 2005, 08:24pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
Dude, I am not even going to SLAM you

But you didn't get 3,300 in 3D 05' w/ OB gfx, you wouldn't even get 3,300 in 3D 01'

OCGW

PEACE

Armageddon Feb 21, 2005, 11:24pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
My thanks to the people that replied so far. Von Drasheck that stuttering problem has been solved by enabling multi-GPU in the performance settings. Why would I need to enable SLI twice, and why would a single-GPU (being a 6600GT to boot) not handle BFV, is a question Nvidia, and Gigabyte, need to address.
My SLI board does not allow me to set anything regarding RAM, and I do suspect the slowness has something to do with it, although BIOS and drivers have a bigger part in it. What really angers me, is that comparing my new system to my old P4 with a 9700 ATI, it makes me think that, that extra $2000+ I spent on the new one, was a terrible waist of my money and effort. Given all the bechmarks and reviews I've seen so far, I should have had some immediate improvement. Guess I'll have to wait for the updates from both.

Dark Fiber Feb 26, 2005, 11:48pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
Armageddon> Try the new 1.04 Firmware on your Plextor 716...

http://www.plextor.com/english/support/downloads/firm_716.htm

Maybe that will solve your issue.



Dark Fiber

Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI | Athlon XP 3500+ (Winnie) | 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC3200 | PCP&C 550-SLI PSU | eVGA Geforce 6800 GT | SB Audigy 2 ZS | (2) Hitachi 250GB SATA HD's| Plextor PX-716A | Lian-Li PC-V1200 Case
Armageddon Feb 27, 2005, 01:29am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
Thank you sir, but I've already got it updated. The Nvidia IDE driver from Gigabyte's site kinda solved the problem. Nero (the latest and the one before it), still doesn't want to run right on this platform. Don't you think that they should be paying us to get their products? This is too much work to get these things running half-right!

Maestro Feb 27, 2005, 01:49am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
my dad has the GA-K8NXP-SLI, with the GV-3D1, and he gets 6103 in 3DMARK05, 14103in the 03. he has a 3500+ and 1Gb of cheap and nasty ram...something wrong with your scores, buddy

AMD ATHLON64 3000+ 754@2.2GHZ
Gigabyte KBNS
512MB DDR C3200@2.5">PC3200@2.5-3-3-8
X800XT PE 256MB
160G Seagate Sata 8m
Liteon 52x32x52x16x Combo Drive
Netgear WG311v2 802.11G PCI
Realtek ALC850 AC'97 8-Channel Audio
Hitachi CM721F 19" Flat Screen CRT
Hairong 400W PSU


Armageddon Feb 27, 2005, 11:06am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow!
Actually, since my first post, and countless searches on google, I've managed to find the extreme drivers which have vastly improved my scores on all three 3DMark benchmarks. Now I'm getting 6497 in '05, 18500 in '01, and round 16000+ in '03. There's still those little hickups during 3D gameplay and benchmarking, but I'm taking another posters advise and trying to find a program to monitor the voltages present during those times. If anybody knows a program that will allow me to record voltages and temps present on the motherboard, please, let me know.

THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK Feb 27, 2005, 12:57pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte SLI, and two 6600GTs Dreadfully Slow! OOPS, WRONG TEST.
I went to test taken thats on desktop, it was sandra 2004 lite. I am happy to try 3d '05 if I knew where to load it up & take it. Reason I hoped to do better is that this mainboard is running xabre 200 as obgfx, not just simplier 64 mb onboard, Also theres no hyper transport supported to slow things down, only sse & mmx are supported to more rapidly transfer data. it also has 3d now. I SET BUS TO 199 MHZ TO UP THAT AS WELL on 768 mb ddr 3200.(333 mhz/sec standard) & as I stated AMD 2600+ xp Athlon. So if you want to know actual 3d score let me know where test is available & I'll copy & paste those "lowly" scores."WEEP". //on ags' prob.If its not jiggling all time, its proably just some burn in time need by actual use or software is still clunky on high power new systems,(maybe reload game software from scratch). my main board, Game Union k7s7ag, bios was developed in february 2003 (on cmos page), so its not that old, just that slow (same all all 64mb obgfx), i guess, which is why I bought it back then, to start learning, Whole system was only $389.oo plus o/s(cheap as world had just moved to 5900 &9800 "top" level gamecards). eventually todays faster stuff, (most likely expression of hdtv/dsl cable-level of game processing needs) is my final goal, it will cost more, as you all stated in effect for your own systems, yet it will blast with latest technology then, is idea, & its still being crystalized, you might say, day by day as developements occur.However, I must say this clunker does 3dna quite well, came with system & I've yet to have any real problems with 250 mb level of games. Keep on screaming little guy, were all learning all time on this.Also if you think about it, not only do desktop mainboards not support two independent 16x speeds in pci express sli, with worst setting you could ge one card with one processor doing all work at agp4x speeds? somehow as its already cut back to 8x just by using two cards.maybe not 4x is possible anymore in that system, i mean that data is two lanes, one in/ one out, what if theres no real amount of data in from software, only 4x speed going out in "true" effect?, maybe pci express 8x is minimum no matter whats running,Anyway, sounds like speed issue satisfied. Also I read review of "latest" mainboard two days ago that stated in pci express 16x it finally broke 10,000 mark in 3d '05 & that claims by reviewers of 14,000 to 16,000? are not really possible in truth with todays hardware, well if it displays thoss numbers on test, guess it is,yet is it?(test may force scores not available in software support? I believe its way to easy to find true value as stated "about 1/3 less than one thought one was buying. Remember your satisfied now, -yet- your computers' scorching at levels as fast it can physically handle, not optimum performace bios where tests are often reviewed from.
SIGNED:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek md.

PCGEEK Feb 27, 2005, 01:13pm EST Report Abuse
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