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Rodney M May 04, 2005, 05:11am EDT Report Abuse
It would not be unwise of me not to speculate that the 2nd or most definatley the 3rd generation dual cores will have it all over high Ghz single core CPU's in terms of not only single core tasks but obviously multitasking.

Like any new technology, as was the case with DDR2 memory, it took about 6 months before we saw a refinement of this technology that finally gave consumers real value for money with great performance.

Intel's "Presler" 65nm fabrication chips will be the next evolution of this dual core technology, as well as some other suprises that will inevitably leak out over the internet in the coming months.


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Supreet Virdi May 04, 2005, 06:12am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
Wow, HWA is full of Writer's, excellent article Dan :)

Software or a game has to be written specifically to take the advantage of Dual Core, but yet it shows significant improvement on programs which are not written for Dual Core. I think Dual Core would definately increase atleast 40-50% of overall performance as the time goes by.

I am Interested to see AMD Dual Core chips, how they are going to perform against Intel 840 series.

Nice article !

Randy Snyder May 04, 2005, 09:26am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
Nice write up. I like the testing that was done. I get tired of seeing all the synthetic benchmarks. There isn't an abundant amount of multi-threaded software on the market. It would have been interesting to see some benchmarking between non- and multi-threaded applications.

I am also waiting to see what AMD has to offer. I just moved from Intel to AMD. I am tried of riding the Intel marketing rollercoaster.

Thermalfreak May 04, 2005, 09:57am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
Check out neoseeker.com to search for the dual core opterons....one of the treviews has a review for a 4400+....hold onto your seats though.....in one multitasking bench...they started all sorts of stuff in the background and got doom3 in the foreground....AMD's 4400+ (2.4 ghz dual 512kb L2) beat thes**t out of the extreme edition dual core if i remember right....plus gt some good head to head results

I dunno Intel's extrem edition dua core has it uses...but it very specific and ill never find it useful for my systems....

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Daniel Gibbon May 04, 2005, 10:38am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
what i think is amd's dual core will be better because they didnt release it first intel did and for that i always admire intel they bring out most of the new stuff first although they seem to lose to amd they at least do it first which is nice.

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Thermalfreak May 04, 2005, 11:09am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
theyre already released...reviews already came out and its the same story as before....Intel beats AMD in synthetic and encoding...and AMD wins at multimedia and gaming.....just now multitasking comes in and doesnt skew the results...

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Lost Faith May 04, 2005, 03:27pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
thermalfreak, actually amd's dual cores now do a much better job at encoding, up par and sometimes outperforming intel's top dual cores..

4400+ (mid end 2.2ghz model...with ECC ram & 2t timings compared to a double priced extreme edition!!!) non multitasked:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2397&p=17

multitasked:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2397&p=21

lets just hope there'll be a <$300 1.8ghz lineup soon for the desktop

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Thermalfreak May 05, 2005, 04:56am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
Pssst.....i know i just dont wanna let people know their top of the line extreme edition dual core got whupped 30 to 90 on the doom3, dvd burn, something@home plus virus scanning! Those Intel people aretargetting me i tell ya!!!

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Supreet Virdi May 05, 2005, 05:56am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
P4EE = Pentium 4 Expensive Edition.

Anyways, I am not interested in Opetrons !!

guru Shane May 05, 2005, 10:49pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
It looks as if the amount of testing was rather limited. We are only seeing what we already knew. A dual core processor is better at multitasking. What about the new 64 bit applications? Do the dual core desktops become the better choice over the single core while using those? How do they compare to a single core server? What about database functions and queue processing?

A_Pickle May 06, 2005, 12:07am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
To be honest, Intel has really kind of screwed up here. I think the Pentium 4 is a nice CPU, but I think the Prescott core has ultimately become a colossal flop. They shouldn't have tried to carry it as far as they did, and what's worse, is they're continuing to push it. I think the Pentium 600's are where the Prescott core should have died... that was not a core meant for longevity... and that became very apparent with the 600's... they should have killed the Prescott there and started proceeding on the Banias and Dothan cores with the Pentium M.

They seem to be moving in that direction now, having made statements about a 64-bit Pentium M and a Pentium M EE, and I think there's even talk of a multicore variant of the Pentium M... and the whole Yonah with the 65 nm process. Oh well. Fun.

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 06, 2005, 03:46am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
intel seems to have a nice cpu on their hands, but they should of went with a new core instead of the dumb Prescott Core, as of AMD, they have flooded the market with multiple cores of the same speed ex 3500+ they are all rated at 2.2 ghz but which is better, Newcastle, Winchester, or Venice?

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Plug & Play May 06, 2005, 06:57am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?

Nice review, It is nice to see real applications used instead of benchmarks. And the end of the day you need to know what you want your PC to do for you. And go with the best option in that field. I would like to see the AMD duals also.

Guess I will just have to stick with my crappy 3700+ San Diego When it arrives! LOL

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Chris Sosnowski May 15, 2005, 10:39pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
I find it very interesting that there are only 3 Intel posters and 8 posts from various AMD users. I also find it interesting that I dont see alot of publicity around the various AMD based products. I have yet to figure this out, however, I do have faith in the new Intel 8xx series of processors, I own a 3 ghz HT northwood and with stock timings wipes the floor with the "3000+ Winchester AMD." I dont think that this is an anomaly, it is a trend that I have noticed throughout my system building. I have also seen more burned AMD processors than Intel.

Anyway, Intel's new dual core processors seem to be very promising, however expensive as is the trend with new Intel processors (ie the first ee series chips had a $1200 price tag). Who ever said that you get quality for cheap? The only competitor that I would see for an Intel 8xx series chip would have to be a dual core revision of the FX 55.

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Mick Harvey Jul 26, 2005, 03:53am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Intel's dual core Pentium 840 EE, apples and oranges?
Hmmmm. Good article, but I remember reading in a recent magazine that some software companies are quibbling over licences. They are saying that the purchaser has a licence to use there products on one computer. They are now suggesting that a PC with a dual-core CPU could be classed as 2xCPUs (2x Computers). Sounds to me like they are blurring the line again.



 

    
 
 

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