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SexyLady Jul 28, 2005, 08:07pm EDT Report Abuse
HiYa, Yes i know it's a bit to read so sorry, also the fix to my problem is more than likely so blatently obvious that i have simply overlooked it, so if you can point out the stupidity of me not finding the solution please do so!!

i have purchased a GA-8IKHDW mainboard, i also purchased 1.5GB 1x1GB & 2x 256MB DDR266 CL2.5 ECC memory.
When i went to boot the machine for the first time i get "No Signal" message showing on the monitor, i have tried the memory sticks in different banks, i have also tried a different brand memory in which gigabyte themselves recommend to run with this board Kingston ValueRAM DDR266 CL2.5 ECC memory.
Both different brands of memory runs exceptionaly fine in the server that we have (GA-8EGXDR-EL) but neither run on my GA-8IKHDW board.

I have tried 4 different graphics cards including a PCI one, 3 different monitors, and in all circumstances i always get the "No Signal" message on the monitor.

After getting highly peeved off i ran down to the local computer shop and grabed some DDR400 NON-ECC memory just to trial in the machine as the board supports both ECC and NON-ECC. so i took out the ECC memory and replaced it with NON-ECC, only with the NON-ECC installed do we get anything showing on the monitor, i can then enter the BIOS, but since it is running NON-ECC at the time when its booted then the "option in the BIOS" to change the memory type from NON-ECC to ECC is not accessable (since the BIOS setting for this by DEFAULT is NON-ECC) there is no auto detect function in the BIOS it is either ECC or NON-ECC.

Can anyone shed some light on how to boot this machine WITH ECC INSTALLED, as so far no one has been able to get it to boot with anything BUT NON-ECC and of course when running non-ecc it can not be changed to support ecc.

I can not physically see a jumper on the mainboard to change anything to do with ECC memory nore can i find anything in the user manual, it all appears to be a setting in the BIOS.


When i boot with NON-ECC then load "Optimized default settings" in the BIOS it then automatically enables ECC, but as soon as i save and exit, wait for the PC to shut down stop it from rebooting and then take the NON-ECC memory out and replace it with ECC, it still wont boot still NO Signal from monitor, when i then shutdown and replace the NON-ECC memory and boot into bios it has changed back to NON-ECC... how can i get it to keep the settings for ECC?

(Just as well i have a notebook to use!!)

Specs are (and please DONT laugh i'm still building it up BUT will get there soon!!)

Mainboard Gigabyte GA-8IKHDW (Dual Xeon mainboard)
CPU:Intel Xeon 2.0GHz ... replacing it with a 3.06 next week and a second 3.06 in 6mths time
Memory: 1.5GB DDR266 CL2.5 ECC
HDD: OS 80GB IDE (waiting on 2x 80GB SATA)
HDD: 40GB IDE
Graphics: MX440 (dont laugh have ordered a better card but this is just a PC for me to much around on)
Windows XP + SP2


If anyone can shed some light on this it would be appreciated, as there is no solution in any manual and since gigabyte take over 7 days to reply to my emails and have no phone number for them in New Zealand i thought this may be quicker!!!


HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
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Fixer Jul 28, 2005, 09:10pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
eheheheheheeh Graphics: MX440, sorry, nice to see you Sexylady back on line missed you, will send you a PM, tired and ready for bed here 10 past 2 in the morning here lol.
Will look into to it with you, have you tried putting the memory in and then clearing cmos?

SexyLady Jul 28, 2005, 09:14pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
Hey Andy!!!

Now i did ask nice not to laugh :P becides the board wont boot with no graphics card and something is better than nothing hehehe
Clearing CMOS sets it back to factory default, in which it is set to NON-ECC, so unfortunatly that wont help much, and unless it is set to ECC in BIOS it will not accept ECC memory..... will give it a go anyway, but errrr dont think it will work...

PS Good to see you again!!

OK tried clearing CMOS with ECC installed, as thought though reverts to NON-ECC as they are factory default, wont boot at all get memory error beeps and still no signal on monitor, also there does not seem to be any BIOS flash with this board the only BIOS seems to be the one it was released with......as i did look.

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
Sean Costello Jul 28, 2005, 09:53pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
is the memory compatibale withh the mobo?

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SexyLady Jul 28, 2005, 09:57pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
Sure is, i have tried 3 brands of memory, one is what gigabyte themselves recommend to use on this board Kingston ValueRAM DDR266 CL2.5 ECC memory (also when i checked the Kingston site and loaded me mainboard make and model Kingston also states that this memory is fine to use), i have also tried HP DDR266 CL2.5 ECC and IBM DDR266 CL2.5 ECC memory .... Yes all the memory is brand new and has been tested on another gigabyte dual xeon board and has no errors.

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
Sean Costello Jul 28, 2005, 09:59pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
ignore that i just looked it up

also are you running a server or workstation?

EDIT: did you try DDR333??

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SexyLady Jul 28, 2005, 10:03pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
We run a server as well as many workstation, but this i am just building as a play around PC for myself as i had a spare Xeon laying around that needed a home, YES i know that i could just run DDR NON-ECC memory since its just a play around toy, but of course i have already purchased the ECC memory due to the fact that i checked the specs on the mainboard before i purchased it, and would like to be able to run it with what it is supposed to take.....


EDIT: Didnt try DDR333 as it is only a 400FSB and 333 will underclock to 266 with this processor, when i dump the 3.06 in next week i could run DDR333, but untill then what ever i get will downclock to 266, as the NON-ECC memory i dumped in was DDR400, but underclocked to register as DDR266

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
amdfreak22 Jul 28, 2005, 10:23pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
Try changing the cmos jumper position (if there is one) and bootin' her up.

Edit:
Ah crap I didn't read far enough into the message to see the part where you got to the BIOS. My bad! Ignore me!

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Sean Costello Jul 28, 2005, 10:33pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
oh btw why did you get a xeon processor? not to start a flame war thing but im just curious

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SexyLady Jul 28, 2005, 10:33pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
LOL no worries Flyguy20!!!!!

I am almost running out of options i think, or atleast fast fix options!!

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
SexyLady Jul 28, 2005, 10:38pm EDT Report Abuse
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lol Sean .... because i actually had one floating around the house thought i might as well find a home for it, becides i hadn't built myself a machine with a Xeon before, thought i would eventually run two of them and then see how far i can push them (becides dual Xeons crunch Seti like they are going otu of business!!)

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
Sean Costello Jul 28, 2005, 10:45pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
oooh thats odd i dont find Xeons floating around my house :( lol

1 Xeon , 2 Xeon's


games: bad , still pretty bad

Workstations: good , very good

Servers: very good , exellent

and thats my 2 cents

EDIT: I think its the mobo (obviously im just dumb)

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SexyLady Jul 28, 2005, 10:53pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
Yeah i know they are not good for gaming, but since i dont have time to play games anymore, then i guess i can get away with it, do more video encoding and editing more than anything..... I thought it may be the board but everything else seems just fine on it, however if i can t find a solution for it then i guess i can get it replaced..... Just couldnt have a CPU homeless (cause im kind like that and take in strays!!)

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
Sean Costello Jul 28, 2005, 10:58pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
LMAO

OEMs?

yeah but those mobos seem dam expensive

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SexyLady Jul 28, 2005, 11:09pm EDT Report Abuse
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all the other hardware other than the CPU is OEM

and yes the mainboards are not on the cheap side.....

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
angryhippy Jul 29, 2005, 03:25am EDT Report Abuse
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Well I looked at the owners manual and yes no jumpers, only the BIOS settings. Have you installed the ECC first, then clear the CMOS and try to boot?. Are you trying to run the memory in dual channel (slots 1-3 or 2-4), or have you tried all the other configs as well. I did see a patch for the chipset drivers on giga-bytes site while looking for the manual, but I don't see how that would relate to the memory problem. There were no release notes attached (I hate that!).

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SexyLady Jul 29, 2005, 04:30am EDT Report Abuse
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HiYa Payton, yes i have installed ECC and then cleared CMOS while it was still installed, still a no go, i think it is because when you clear the CMOS it sets it back to factory defaults which in this case are NON-ECC memory only. Yes again i have tried all configurations of memory banks, as i have 1GB stick tried in all 4 slots by itself, and then i have tried 2x 256 matched pair in both dual channel mode and non-dual channel slots, i have also tried a lonely 256 stick in all slots.

PS everyones help is greatly appreciated!!

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
SexyLady Jul 29, 2005, 05:05am EDT Report Abuse
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OK update: downloaded and installed the Chipset update for mainboard, it did enable me to boot with a USB keyboard (before i had to use PS/2 Yes before you chuckle to yourself USB keyboard IS enabled in the BIOS) OR i had to have BOTH a PS/2 AND USB keyboard pluged in at same time for the USB keyboard to work....WEIRD.....But bad news is... did not help with the ECC Memory problem...... :)

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
angryhippy Jul 29, 2005, 05:36am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
OK Liz I went back and read the manual more. It looks like it is idiot proofed. With non-ECC memory the ECC non ECC option is disabled by default and with ECC installed it should have the option available. Have you tried to up the DIMM voltage to maybe 2.6 or 2.7? It looks like a hardware issie with the boards. The only thing left that I would try is to not clear the BIOs, but actually re-flash it, even though the original version is the only one available. It may just be corrupted. That's about all I can think of to try.

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SexyLady Jul 29, 2005, 05:56am EDT Report Abuse
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HiYa Payton, I'm sure the ECC vs NON-ECC option will be enabled IF i could get the thing to post with ECC installed, only thing is i cant even get a single thing on the monitor with ECC installed (heck the light on monitor stays orange and doesnt even get to green) so i have not ever seen the BIOS settings with ECC, i have JUST recieved a reply from Gigabyte, it seems that they now say Kingston ValueRAM is not on the list of tested compatible memory, although the Kingston site says it is and so does EVERY site i have seen as well as every wholesale computer place in this country, in fact it is the ONLY ECC memory they recommend to run in it..... go figure.... back to square One. Only good thing is i can sell the ECC memory and stil be able to afford NON-ECC..... Sighs....

HP nc8430 notebook, 100GB SATA HDD, Intel T7200 Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz processor, X1600 with 256MB, 2GB Memory, Vista Business, 20" Wide LCD Monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse, External 30GB 2.5" IDE HDD, External 80GB 2.5" SATA HDD
Dublin_Gunner Jul 29, 2005, 06:20am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Gigabyte board vs ECC memory.... Frustrated!!
hey,

So exactly how sexy are you?? LMAO

I have a sneaking suspicion that the board may not support that ECC memory. memory such as that can be very picky, and boarsds can be very picky regarding ECC memory.

My suggestion(although not really solving the problem) would be to send that RAM back and just use some decent PC3200 ram. There is no specific reason that you wish to use ECC is there? I mean, this isnt a server you wish to build for anything important?

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