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Rich Tatham Feb 08, 2003, 03:43pm EST Report Abuse

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Wildwood Feb 10, 2003, 12:14am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: K7S5A vs Geforce 4 MX460
The problem is that you need to remove your previous ATI drivers. Then install the new card.
And never run an Athlon without the cooling fan. You're begging for a fried processor.

Eric M Feb 10, 2003, 11:34am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: K7S5A vs Geforce 4 MX460
I don't see what difference the old ATI drivers would make for a system that refuses to post, but I agree with never unplugging your CPU fan!

It sounds like you have tried all the obvious things .... I know the later revisions of the ECS K7S5A support AGP 2.0 (4X), but I don't know about the earlier revision you have. It could be it's not compatible with the new 4X/8X (1.5V) GeForce4 boards.

One last thing you might want to try - remove all your add-in cards as well (especially the TV tuner), and try to boot the new card with just one stick or ram, the cpu fan, and hard drive connected (i.e. absolute minimum). If that doesn't work, even with the BIOS upgrades, then I suspect you are likely stuck and will have to return the card or upgrade the mobo :-(

Rich Tatham Feb 12, 2003, 01:39pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: K7S5A vs Geforce 4 MX460
Hi there.
Ok, heres the situation:

1) Theres no need to uninstall the Riva drivers - the Detonator drivers cover the TNT2 up to the Geforce4, so theres no problems there. Considering Im not getting to POST, its a moot point.
2) The Zlaman Flower Cooler Im using is designed as a passive heatsink, so a fan is simply a bonus, but not neccesary. For more information visit
3) I tried a 550W power supply today instead of my 300W one - Also made by QuietPC, so its no shoddy no-name think that leaks volts all over the place - this had NO effect - I still cant post.
4) I have reduced the system to simply the Geforce card and the CPU, and then tried 12 different memory DIMMs to see if there was any conflict. No joy there.
5) The BIOS flash is that latest to date for my board - a rev. 1.65

If ANYONE has managed to get a Geforce MX460 to work on a K7S5A PLEASE post here - I'd love to know how you did it. Otherwise, please post alternative graphics cards to use, as I am rapidly losing patience with this Geforce, and I love the K7S5A too much (its the most stable board Ive ever used)


andrew kairis Feb 12, 2003, 04:00pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: K7S5A vs Geforce 4 MX460
yes rich knows what he's talking about guys, zalman coolers are neat. hehe many many little fins, great for sub super sonic speed processors.
and i'm 100% certain this is not a driver issue, you haven't even reached software yet, unless you consider the BIOS and Cmos software.

as for alternatives i would suggest an ATi radeon 8500 ... the radeon can be had for 60 bucks plus shipping and its a good bit more powerful then that budget MX model. I run one on my 1075duron (OC) and at 1600x1200 with everything turned on i think i get about 3000-4000 3dmarks, --remember this is with everything AF, AA, 32bit color, triple buffer, at default i get about 6000 3dmarks.

as for solutions...... this is very odd, i've never hear anyone with this problem tring everything you have tried and not solving it..... I think i might have done this before.... but it wasn't any issue, i plugged it in and it worked..... ummm.... check to see if the company that made your 460MX strayed from the reference spec..... shot in the dark but its something.... you might also try different video bios flashes...... again, a shot in the dark, but its something. and don't try it unless you are aware of the risks (though you sound knowledgeable enough to know what they are)

andrew kairis Feb 12, 2003, 04:01pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: K7S5A vs Geforce 4 MX460
and BTW, the RIVA was nVidea not ati.

Rich Tatham Feb 12, 2003, 06:44pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: K7S5A vs Geforce 4 MX460
Well thanks to all you guys - it looks like this is going to be a continuing problem. Neither ECS nor MSI, the manufacturers of the motherboard and GPU respectively, have returned my emails (good ol' customer care my arse) so it looks like this is in UNSOLVED problem.

If anyone wants to buy a brand new MSI Geforce4 MX460-VTP email m, although I will NOT refund if incompatabilty issues occur...

No...wait...thats my retailer.

Cheers for your help guys, and if anyone else has any suggestions, let me know


Wildwood Feb 13, 2003, 12:32am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: K7S5A vs Geforce 4 MX460
Sry 'bout bad advice. You're right of course. I'll refrain from replying at 3am from now on. Not clear at that hour. My bad :-(

Simao R Jun 15, 2003, 01:16pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: K7S5A vs Geforce 4 MX460
I have the same problem with a geforce4 mx 440 (inno3d)



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