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michael cavell Sep 19, 2005, 05:04pm EDT Report Abuse
hey. I have an athlon 3000 @ 2gig. 9800pro(128). 1 gig mem (2x512 aria high performace) and after trying to play battlefield Im thinking I need an upgrade. the game is badly written and a massive system hog.

Just need some pointers on what to go for. I was going to upgrade memory and was wondering is it best to go for matching memory. ie 3x512? Also would upgrading the video card help or will the procesor make it a waste of time? Was looking at the x800s and would consider the purchase if it really helped?

thanks in advance for advice.


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Adam Kolak Sep 19, 2005, 05:07pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: bought battlefield 2 and cant play. need to upgrade?
BF2 should run fine at Medium settings @ a 1024x768 resolution on your computer. Does it not?

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Plug & Play Sep 19, 2005, 05:11pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: bought battlefield 2 and cant play. need to upgrade?

You should be able to run BF2 at medium settings at a meduim resalution with your spec. First off do not get more RAM. 1 gig is fine as you say its good stuff. You graphics card is showing its age at this stage. Bang for buck the x800xl is a super card closely followed by the 6600gt. If you have some extra cash get a new board and cpu instead of the GPU.

But I would get a high end card!

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michael cavell Sep 19, 2005, 05:20pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: bought battlefield 2 and cant play. need to upgrade?
so youre suggesting a complete overhaul? lol. thats alot of money.

in response to the 1st poster. no it runs so bad. Demo was fine, when I first got the game it ran ok except it would crash. now its unplayable. crazy lag spikes at lowest settings. 800x600 etc. still jumps all over the shop. Tried uninstalling reinstalling different drivers, changing so many things, reinstalling the game and patching, updateing pb manually. spoke to customer support and they gave me bs about how well the games written, so wtf are so many people complaining it doesnt work. he just sent me an email on how to reinstall it which Id said done already.

idiots.

Plug & Play Sep 19, 2005, 05:26pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: bought battlefield 2 and cant play. need to upgrade?

No not a complete over haul just at best cpu and mobo. But a new card will do an awful lot. The other thing to do is un-install the game and defragment your hard drive and reinstall the game. At get the latest drivers too. It will make a difference. And are you sure you are not playing on laggy servers.

Try playing the game offline against the computer at the same settings and see if its any better!

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Marsh Crockwell Sep 19, 2005, 05:45pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: bought battlefield 2 and cant play. need to upgrade?
i play bf2 alot and i get no problem and run mine on 1152@100hz and all on maximum settings you mobo cpu are fine for it, but you need at least 1.5gig of ram recommended 2gig ram and a good 256 card like a 6800gt asus is a good one. these are my specs and mine is 2 years old.
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Plug & Play Sep 19, 2005, 05:53pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: bought battlefield 2 and cant play. need to upgrade?

Buying more RAM will not do much for you, you need a better GPU!

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michael cavell Sep 19, 2005, 06:23pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
thanks for the input. will give the defrag a go. i actually thought the new drivers might have messed it up. As after upgrading catalyst it went from crashing occasionly to unplayable so its definatly a conflict issue.....

I was going to upgrade memory anyway for another reason. so whats best with 2 512 performance sticks? with one spare slot? is it best to get same kind/same size?

And i was tempted by a graphics card; alot of conflciting info but curious would a cheaper x800 make a vast difference, and would anything else bottleneck with the cpu?

thanks again guys.

Plug & Play Sep 19, 2005, 06:33pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
For a start you absolutly have to make sure all the pervious drivers are gone before putting in the new drivers. The x800xl would make a hugh difference to your system. For a start its a 256 bit card instead of the 128 bit that the 9800pro is therefore you have twice the bandwidth potential. Its also GDDR3 memory a hell of a lot better then the 128m memory on the 9800. The best upgrade for you at this moment is the graphics card.

Any high end memory is good. OCZ and Geil are very good for games along with corsiar and kingston, I personally love the OCZ Gold series for games. 1 gig (2x512 to run it a DDR) of OCZ Gold would do a lovely job but only with the GPU dont get it instead of the GPU mate. Although you have a low end CPU it wont harm the performance of the x800xl or the 6600gt.

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Rory Witham Sep 19, 2005, 11:00pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
Thats genric RAM which prob, run's very slow.

Normally I would say the system spec's will play the game fine, You may want to consider getting a X700 or a 6600 graphics card, but your computer should run the game fine.

I have noticed that some servers do lag even with a low ping, as I play on servers all around the world and have no issues. infact, the game is more smother than the demo..

BTW Have you installed the patch?

( dont forget, if it works.. send them an email, saying that although the game is well written and you have to fix the perfect work you did, then your full of BS as it was and isnt working well or you would not have had to patch it. Will the exsp pack just be a lot of fixes and very little extra added to the game, or will you actually make the game better for single player? --- Like being able to play all the missions? or is this the actual exp pack?)


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Jarret M. Sep 20, 2005, 12:09am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
I play BF2 all the time.. And I only run a FX 5700 with a S754 64 2800+ .. I'm pretty sure I run it with all medium settings at 1024x768.. I have the occational lag when there is a lot going on on the screen, but other than that, very very playable! Oh, and i only have 1gb of el cheapo samsung memory which runs at 266mhz..

jason sneed Sep 20, 2005, 01:15am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
My brother ran on a 2500+ 1.8 ghz, radeon 9600 xt, and a gig of ram. @ high settings (default view distance) at 1024x768. Try scanning for spyware, defraggin your hdd, and maybe even consider a fresh install of xp. If you really must upgrade more ram is needed with the bigger levels as the game can use more than a gig of memory at a time. The rest of your system should still be good to go for a year.

RSA . Sep 20, 2005, 01:42am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
1.5gb is fine in BF2 and FEAR,
please upgrade to 1.5gb

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micro Sep 20, 2005, 01:46am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
well, some people may be confused about what video slots you have on your board.

"hey. I have an athlon 3000 @ 2gig. 9800pro(128). 1 gig mem (2x512 aria high performace)"

From what you say there, you have an agp slot and a 400fsb cpu??

If you upgrade to the x800, you are still limited to 8x. So there will be some preformance increase, but not leaps and bounds.

Bring up your "task manager" and see how much ram you are using with windows at idle and while playing the game. you are maxed out! Since you are playing "bf2" you do need...need...need. 1.5gig+ of ram for this game.(as someone stated earlier)

Since you arnt running dual channel ram get another stick and run the 3 sticks of 512 and call it good. Also shut off some of the programs you have running in the background to free up some ram. make sure you have 1gig+ of virtual memory, you may also want to clear it out, set it to zero, restart your pc and set it up to about 1.5gig.

Its not worth getting the video card till you upgrade your whole system to a 64bit (socket 939) and get a pci-e video card. Then get the 6800gt or the x800xl. so you have the 16x pipeline, instead of 8x. That is where you will see the system preformance increase.

Ps with the new board, vid card and cpu... you can still use your old ram (assuming it is 3200...400fsb)

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jason sneed Sep 20, 2005, 01:51am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
"If you upgrade to the x800, you are still limited to 8x. So there will be some preformance increase, but not leaps and bounds."
As of now no video card currently use more bandwith than 8x agp provides, they barely use more than 4x agp. So being limited to 8x agp won't efect performance at all at this point. Only if ATI and NVIDIA don't release their new cards on agp will 8x agp limit performance as you won't be able to get the latest and greatest cards. But seriously I would stick w/ the 9800 pro for at least until ut 2007 comes out. I wouldn't upgrade the video until you can upgrade your CPU and mobo.

SombaSan Sep 20, 2005, 02:00am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
ive not taken the time to read anyones replys however my 9800pro with my OC 2800+64-bit does fine.

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michael cavell Sep 20, 2005, 06:13am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
i know its something to do with the software as it used to be playable. :( but ive tried reinstalling/patching running a driver cleaner installing new/old drivers as well as catalyst/omega drivers. turning of fastwrite, changing my audigy hardware acceleration etc etc. i do have a couple of bits of spyware that wont go but they werent a problem with any other game or even this one when i first bought it. its really p**sing me off.

back to the memory, i know it may not make too much difference but I use my computer for work too so if i did upgrade, youre saying keeping 3x512 is the best way yes? what would be better though keeping it all generic performace ram or something cheaper but better made like crucial/kingston thats normal performance (ie without the crazy blue casing etc)

thanks again.
and **** EA

Greg M Sep 20, 2005, 07:51am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
I don't have time to read this all...

I assume you are talking about stuttering. If so, a new CPU and GPU aren't going to help.

Do you have your drive partitioned? If so, try moving the swap file around. It should be 1.5x how much ram you have.

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michael cavell Sep 20, 2005, 08:04am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
no its not partioned. but whats all this about swap files and virtual memory?

Dublin_Gunner Sep 20, 2005, 08:23am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
On your desktop, right click on 'my computer' and go to preperties. Go to the 'advanced' tab. And you should see the options for 'Virtual Memory'. Make sure this is at least 1.5times your system ram amount. I use a 1.7~ sized swap file, and my BF2 runs perfectly well with most settings medium/high, apart from textures (low, only512mb ram) and dynamic shadows/lights low. 2xAA and high filtering

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michael cavell Sep 20, 2005, 09:56am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Bought Battlefield 2 and can't play. Need to upgrade?
it was on 1.5. changed it to 2. will reinstall bf2 and patch again after running spyware again. i aint hopefull though :(


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