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Sverre Nov 07, 2001, 02:44am EST Report Abuse
Ok, I've just joined the team, and by looking at the team stats, I think we have a fair chance of passing three other teams by the weekend.

What do you think? Are you into it?


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Sverre Nov 07, 2001, 04:00am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
I've seen a few questions about G@H utilities, so here are a few links:

Electron Microscope 2 - A nice "peeker" and "hider" program for the Genome@home console client, which can monitor up to 4 processors simultaneously: http://www.dwpg.com/gah/em2.zip

Genome Crash Monitor - It monitors the status of the Genome@Home client, and if not running, Crash Monitor restarts it: http://www.dwpg.com/gah/GenomeMon.exe

GenomeSpy - A Genome front end, capable of monitoring multiple clients across a network (requires mapped drives): http://www.franken.de/users/v8/GS/index_eng.htm

kdfold - This genome front end can monitor multiple clients across a network, also monitors folding clients, and aparently also works in linux: http://www.plasticstudios.org/robsdelphipage.html

And finally, the GenomeClient. Keep in mind that you will have to register as a Genome user if you haven't already done that: http://dwpg.com/gah/ghclient099_win.exe

So...what are we waiting for??

DaveO Nov 07, 2001, 05:56am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
Nice work Sverre, I'll be checking out some of the utilities in there that I haven't yet tried.

As for our progress, well we've been stuck in 60th position-ish for quite a while now, all the teams around us are performing at a similar rate. With 3 new members now (and rowebote apparently back) though, we might start making some good progress. I'm certainly keen to see us get past team EASILYADDICTIVEdotcom, they've been holding us back for just a little too long now and it's begining to irritate me ;)


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Sverre Nov 07, 2001, 06:27am EST Report Abuse
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Ok...there are a few more things that is of interest when Genoming. The information that follows are snippets from the http://www.overclockers-network.com website Genome FAQ, and I recommend that you read the whole FAQ at http://argentum.freeservers.com/Files/DarkGenomeFAQ.pdf to get a complete picture of what it's all about

To run this on multiple computers, you must redownload and install the client individually on each one. There is an ID number that is retrieved when the client is run that is assigned to one computer and one Computer only, so it will not work if you just copy the folder to another
computer. This ID number is not the same thing as your username or account number, those are things that can be the same across many computers, so make sure those are the exact same as when you installed it the first time.

Genome@Home is not multi-threaded, so in order to run it on an SMP system, you will have to install the client as many times as you have processors on that machine (for instance if you have a dual system, you would install the program twice, in two different directories. for a quad system, you would install it four times, in four different directories.)

If you overclock your system and Genome@Home seems to close itself without warning or error message, chances are you've overclocked too high. Genome@Home stresses the CPU quite a bit harder than SETI@Home and will likely raise temperatures a few degrees higher, so keep this in mind if you get frequent crashes. Worth mentioning is that Genome loves high CPU speed. If you have an AMD CPU and if you can't make your CPU run at a certain FSB, try lowering the FSB and increase the multiplier instead, as higher FSB doesn't mean as much as higher CPU speed.

Another cause of frequent crashes may be a bad gene. This software is still technically in the beta stage and as such still contains a few bugs (although they are far and few between when compared to the first version). Symptoms of a crashing gene are an illegal operation right after the client finishes "Initializing protein design algorithm" no matter how stable your system is. To remedy this situation, use the start menu item labeled "Clear bad work and restart". It will delete the work unit and download a new one.

If you have problems with this, I would recommend the use of Genome CrashMonitor. This utility can, among many other things, download a new Workunit(WU) after for example 2 crashes(this value can be set to any two digit number)

Genome's servers update the stats every 3 hours, but there is usually a one-update lag to make sure there are no duplicates. This generally means you will see your genes usually no more than 6 hours after it is sent.

As far as I know there are no real Genome tweaks, but if you happen to know of any or find any, this is the right tread to post it in;)

DaveO Nov 07, 2001, 09:41am EST Report Abuse
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I don't know of any tweaks either, unfortunately. The best way of improving your work rate seems to be 'buy several big CPUs and leave the machines on 24/7'. Seems to do the trick ;)

One thing I didn't quite get from your last post Sverre was the 'redownload' bit when installing on multiple machines. As far as I was aware, you're downloading the exact same binary every time you do download, but your CPU ID is attributed when you first run the client and register your team number and username. I admit to not having read the FAQ you mentioned yet, so I'll go and have a look at it.



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Robert Kropiewnicki Nov 07, 2001, 10:07am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
There is a link on the Genome@Home site for downloading the client for a second computer. It is the only way I know of to have two different machines crunching for the same user. That's how I got my two PC's going.

Won't be long before Sverre catches me at the rate he's going. 50+ Units in 2 days???? Egad, it took me a week to get double that.

Go HA Go HA Go!

DaveO Nov 07, 2001, 02:56pm EST Report Abuse
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Yeah, as I remember it, the g@h FAQ just says 'install on multiple machines, press go' ;). Maybe I should be more clear - I meant I don't think you actually have to download the client every time, but as Sverre rightly says you need to install it afresh each time rather than try and copy an install folder over from another machine.


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Sverre Nov 07, 2001, 03:36pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
Say what, Rob?? 72.50 units 5 genes in TWO days...mmmwwuuuahahaha!!!

:D:D

Robert Kropiewnicki Nov 07, 2001, 04:52pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
Now if only we could get some more people to join the fun.

Robert Kropiewnicki Nov 07, 2001, 04:54pm EST Report Abuse
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I guess it's time to play the game of how far can I climb before Sverre's wooden monster catches me.

Robert Kropiewnicki Nov 07, 2001, 11:22pm EST Report Abuse
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We should set some kind of goal as to how far we'd like to get by the end of the calendar year. Something to keep us motivated through the day-to-day crunching grind.

I know there are a couple of teams in front of us that aren't doing anything. So, realistically, where does everyone see us ending up when midnight, January 1 hits.

Sverre Nov 08, 2001, 05:17am EST Report Abuse
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"I guess it's time to play the game of how far can I climb before Sverre's wooden monster catches me."

I think that would be tomorrow or saturday;)

Robert Kropiewnicki Nov 08, 2001, 10:31am EST Report Abuse
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Welcome to the team, Rhort.

Robert Kropiewnicki Nov 09, 2001, 12:30am EST Report Abuse
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I have hit the top 50 percentile of all Genome crunchers.....considering the machines that I am doing this on, I'm feeling pretty good.

Who's afraid of the big bad Sverre? LOL......Can I hold him off until Monday? Hmmm............

Sverre Nov 09, 2001, 02:28am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
I don't think so..I processed about 100WU's yesterday and I'll pass Mbeach tonight(most likely). My goal is to pass _1_ by Monday:D

Am I the only one crunching here??;)

Lars Bjerke Nov 09, 2001, 01:16pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
Hey guys!

Thanks to your man Sverre, I'm joining you guys too. Seti@home didn't seem to serve much of a purpose, and the Anandtech team is powerful enough without me.

As of now I'm only crunching 24/7 on a PIII@960, but as editor and manager of http://www.overklokking.no I have a nasty little sucker in store - dual Athlon XP/MP with severe peltier/watercooling action going on. The PIII will do it's work in a semiportable homemade thing... Another PIII@1GHz or so is coming in too, and in addition a multimedia center is in the works.

Don't feel too safe, Duckman...

Robert Kropiewnicki Nov 09, 2001, 02:07pm EST Report Abuse
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I'm beginning to feel like roadkill all of the sudden......lol.


Sverre Nov 09, 2001, 02:12pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
I'm almost weting my pants now...come and get me, bad boy....if you can, that is...

:D:D

Robert Kropiewnicki Nov 09, 2001, 02:12pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
Can't believe I forgot to say this before.....welcome aboard, Lars!!!

Hmmm, maybe we do have a shot at catching easilyaddicted in the standings with our newest member.

Sverre Nov 09, 2001, 02:24pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
..if we don't have a shot at catching them, I'll shoot them personally;)

Dan Mepham Nov 10, 2001, 11:14pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Genome - How high do we want to go today?
Welcome to the team all of you! Great to see some more people on board! Ryan and Ashley .. we need to get you guys back into it! :-)

Y'all can still eat my dust, though. ;)

Dan Mepham

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