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on line Sep 29, 2005, 08:57pm EDT Report Abuse
Hello,

This started out simple (or so I thought). I was just going to replace the motherboard and use my old AMD Athlon 1400. When I bought the mobo I also bought one DDR memory stick.

Hooked everything up but it wouldn't post. So I figured the CPU might be bad and it was time to upgrade it anyway so I bought a new CPU and HSF. Still wouldn't post.

I've had problems with PSUs in the past and the new PSU I was using was kind of cheap so I bought a better one to see if that was the problem.

STILL no post. Then I thought maybe it's the video card and what the heck it's time to upgrade the video card too. Hooked IT up and still nothing.

So now I have all these great components but can't get the $#@! thing to work. Here's what I have now. Does anyone see any glaring incompatbility?

- AMD Athlon 1400 CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130512)
- 1GB DDR (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820223020)
- ATHLON XP 3000+ (http://www.spartantech.com/product.asp?orderid=929176618321771...3000400OEM)
- Thermaltake Silent Boost 80mm Ball (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106037)
- GeForce FX 5200 video card (I know this is not high-end. I just wanted to try any video card and I didn't want to buy an expensive one yet)
- Antec Smartpower 2.0 500 watt ATX 12v v2.0 PSU

Any help would be greatly appreciated because I just don't know what else to do.

Thanks!


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Dublin_Gunner Sep 29, 2005, 09:14pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
Probably that crappy ram, or you've installed something incorrectly.

Is any part of the mobo touching the case? Are all cables/wires in properly? (even take them out and re-seat them, this goes for expansion cards too, gfx etc)

Is the PSU turned on at the back? Is the wall socket turned on/does it work?

Does anything happen when you start it? (beeps, fans, hard drives etc)

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Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
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ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
Arsey Iervasi Perfomance Junkie Extreme Sep 29, 2005, 09:18pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
have u plugged the 20/24 pin mobo power plug in properly...cuz i had trouble with that and when i finally pushed hard enuff 2 get it in....viola it worked

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on line Sep 29, 2005, 09:19pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
I should have mentioned that all the fans come on.

Why do you say the RAM is crappy?

Arsey Iervasi Perfomance Junkie Extreme Sep 29, 2005, 09:21pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
becuz if the computer cant read the ram properly...then its not gonna go anywhere 2 quickly....wat brand is it

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on line Sep 29, 2005, 09:31pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
The memory is by Rosewill


Merc Sep 29, 2005, 09:36pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
You've done a lot of switching of components and reboots etc. Try this, Unplug the PC from the wall, make sure evertythiing is well seated and then reset the CMOS/BIOS by pulling the battery and switching the jumper around See your manual). Put the battery back in, plug the PC back in and start it up. Hopefully it will POST. If you really want to do it correctly disconnect all the drives from the mobo.

Merc
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Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
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1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
on line Sep 29, 2005, 09:43pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
You're right... I have done a lot of switching around. I've done all the things you suggest but I'll try again.

I am curious about the comment made by DublinGunner about the memory being crap. I can understand if the comment was meant to say that maybe just that particular memory stick is bad but the brand isn't. Is it?



Arsey Iervasi Perfomance Junkie Extreme Sep 29, 2005, 09:55pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
my dad's friend who's an computer engineer has said he's always had trouble with Rosewill ram...but then again thats just him...i dont think Rosewill is a bad brand...mayb ur ram is 2 slow 4 the fsb or vice versa therefore creating a "i dont wanna boot" situation

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on line Sep 29, 2005, 09:56pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
The only thing that isn't new is the case. I've installed the motherboard on metal risers so it isn't touching the case in any way other than through the risers.

I can't see how anything with the case could possibly be the problem but right now I'm grasping at straws.

on line Sep 29, 2005, 09:59pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
One thing that someone mentioned was that I should set the FSB speed using a jumper but the manual doesn't show such a jumper. So I assumed that it had to be done thru BIOS settings.

Does anyone else?

Arsey Iervasi Perfomance Junkie Extreme Sep 29, 2005, 10:07pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
well...i've racked my brain trying 2 figure out wat's rong with it and i just cant put my finger on it...sorry but i cant think of anything else

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on line Sep 29, 2005, 10:13pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
Now you know how I feel :)

Suspended User Sep 29, 2005, 10:25pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
tried another monitor? if the vidoe card has a fan check to see if thats spinning

guru Shane Sep 29, 2005, 11:08pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
Good call Stein.

It could be that it is posting and you're just not seeing it on the monitor. Are you hearing any beeps?

Jarret M. Sep 29, 2005, 11:33pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
I havn't had a computer not post in a long while.. But back in the old days, beeps meaned a lot. 3 long beeps then a pause, repeat, usually meant problem with ram.. There were other codes, but I don't know any others. So make sure your pc speaker is plugged in, and see if you get any beeps.. maybe we can decode them..

Also, just use the bare minimum.. ram, cpu, power and video... no cables attached or anything..

One more thing to try, is when your seating the cpu in the socket, put a small amount of force on the top of the cpu as you close the lever.. I've a couple times before had it where the cpu not being pushed in all the way made it not post. Just something you can try anyway.

on line Sep 30, 2005, 06:17am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
Nope, no beeps at all.

Right now the hard drive, floppy and cd drive are disconnected.

I'll check the video card fan.

I thought about trying to boot it w/o any memory but that won't work will it? Unfortunately, I don't have another DDR stick sitting around.

Is it possible that there is an incompatibility between the memory and cpu or motherboard?


Suspended User Sep 30, 2005, 06:25am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
Monitor?? I don't think it is your memory sticks

Jass Lau Sep 30, 2005, 06:50am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
You need to do things logically.
Tools one volt meter
Verify every part on a simular system
have all latest drivers CMOS OS ready.
Re-seat cables Sata cables have to known to go bad.
Record any significant changes
When testing and something fails go back one step and try something else, but remebering what happened before.
No bleeps, No fans, No nothing test PSU with one volt meter to rule out power source problem.
Aux molex yellow on 12V one ground black.
Please read up before sticking things in randomly!!!!!!
Mother board if things are that bad try connecting the mother board without case, ram and HD you can test mother boards by it's own re-sitting on that hard white foam! as long as it's non conductive one. all you need is mobo and PSU.
Come back to me once establishing whats on and whats off ?
oh yeah I charge 0.5P$ per post LOL!

guru Shane Sep 30, 2005, 07:12am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
No beeps means that you're not getting power, enough power, or there's a short. I would think it would be the 2 latter, since the fans are spinning.

You've made sure that a speaker is connected, right?

Jass Lau Sep 30, 2005, 07:15am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: I have replaced EVERYTHING and it still won't even POST.
Hence check molex aux for voltage?
just gone up .10PC$ per post!


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