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J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 04:24am EDT Report Abuse
I am changing my my motherboard on thursday. I do not intend to reinstall. Instead I want to remove all my old drivers, swap boards and then boot up.

My question is, which drivers do I need to remove???? Printer? Graphics Card? Monitor? What?

Cheers gang!

J


Abit IC-7
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2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
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Antec True Blue 480W PSU
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Omniscient Oct 12, 2005, 04:44am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
If all you are changing is your motherboard, then you shouldn't have too many difficulties even if you don't uninstall drivers. What operating system are you running? What is your current motherboard model and new motherboard model?

On-board sound and on-board graphics drivers would be a priority. If however you use PCI/agp cards for these then there is no need to remove them. Most logical system devices represent motherboard physical hardware - again generally don't worry with these it's just extra work you're creating for yourself.

Windows XP - being decently plug and play will automatically detect change in mobo, and if it's comptabile with the current installation will simply detect the new hardware and install corresponding drivers. Sometimes (e.g. when changing from Pentium to AMD) you simply have to re-install/repair the OS.

Some chipsets use drivers, e.g. VIA 4-in-1, SIS, and even some Intel chipsets - if you have chipset drivers installed best thing to do is uninstall them. Should be able to do that through add/remove for most current chipset drivers.

Also a best practice, the first time you boot-up your pc with the new motherboard, boot into safe mode. I've found on a couple of occasions when swapping mobo's that on the first boot i get a bsod and stop error, upon rebooting into safe mode, then simply restarting it works :) - don't know the science behind this I just find it works for me.

Hope this helps.

J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 05:56am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Thanks very much mate!

For the record I am changing from a Dell Motherboard P4 Socket 478 to an Abit IC-7 P4 Socket 478. Will this pose any problems?

I have a new Antec Super Lanboy case ready as the Abit mobo won't fit inside the Dell one. And I also bought a Cooler Master Jet 4 heatsink for the CPU.


Abit IC-7
P4 2.8GHz Northwood (OC 3.46GHz)
80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit
Dublin_Gunner Oct 12, 2005, 06:17am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Is this a Dell machine? I presume so.

To be on the safe side I would remove all drivers (GFX, Mobo, Sound anyway) before installing the new board.

Make sure to D/L the up to date ones before you remove the older board though, as you may not be able to connect to the net straight away.

I would personally do a format/reinstall though. As I would treat it as setting up a new machine, as not doing so is taking the easy way out and could lead to problems.

Let us know how ya get on.

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Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
Omniscient Oct 12, 2005, 06:43am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Changing from Dell. uh - well that could be more entertaining. Recently replaced a Dell motherboard with some cheap Asus one can't remember the details tho, went smoothly enough if I remember correctly. If you really don't want to re-install the OS then the outlines above should still suffice. Good luck - let us know how it goes.

J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 06:50am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Is it really a mistake not to reinstall the O/S? Has anyone tried your method and been left with problems?

Abit IC-7
P4 2.8GHz Northwood (OC 3.46GHz)
80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit
Dublin_Gunner Oct 12, 2005, 06:53am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Well the fact is you're probably gonna leave some config files behind, referencing the older mobo.

I would think the best course of action would be to format and reinstall. Not entirely necessary, but the cleanest and most problem proof way of doing it.

Lancool PC K62
Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
Predator Oct 12, 2005, 06:57am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
It is better to reinstall.

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J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 07:07am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Found this guide on changing the mobo without reinstalling. What do you guys think????

Link: http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Articles&go=read&arc_id=36

Abit IC-7
P4 2.8GHz Northwood (OC 3.46GHz)
80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit
Omniscient Oct 12, 2005, 07:17am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Without a doubt the best method is format and re-installation of OS. However, I have on numerous and i do mean numerous occasions swapped motherboards both under windows XP and 98. I'll assume you're running XP though. The only times I've had problems is when changing to a board of different processor type (as mentioned before AMD --> Intel and vice versa). It's no gaurante that your swap will go smoothtly, but I'd put money on it.

XP is a rather stable os in this regard, you will have registry keys and references and quite possible even a couple files remaining that will be of no use. Their detrimental effect on the os is almost negligible. The choice however is yours.

EDIT

Just read the article - for that much trouble it's probably worth the re-install. That's an extremely thorough article. If you're feeling lazy and just want to do a swap I say go for it. But I think you now have enough opinions and resources to help you decide.

Dublin_Gunner Oct 12, 2005, 07:17am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Seems reasonable enough. You'd be quicker formatting and reinstalling though!!

If ya really want to / have to keep your old stuff, then give it a try. But I still feel you cant beat a proper format and reinstall

Lancool PC K62
Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 07:20am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
How about a repair install? Would that be ok? I just don't want to lose my games and apps. Especially the likes of Norton etc:

Abit IC-7
P4 2.8GHz Northwood (OC 3.46GHz)
80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit
Omniscient Oct 12, 2005, 07:25am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
dammit you people post fast.

Repair install is my choice way of cleaning xp without have to reformat and clean install - how much it will benefit you in this regard is questionable.

It'd be better either to go for format and clean or go for swap, and then repair after swap if you get error messages or think system is slow. Repair will leave applications intact.

Dublin_Gunner Oct 12, 2005, 07:35am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
LOL

Fastest fingers in the west!!

I take it you dont partition your HD then?

What you could also do is use partition magic, create a new partition (say 10gb), swap out the mobo and install windows on the new partition.

then use 'files and settings transfer' from XP to copy over your config from the other install of windows. This would leave all your files intact, your original windows install intact, and copy over your registry entries for installed programs so you dont have to install them again. That way you would have a brand new install that would defo work, an old install and see if it works ok. If it does work, you can simply delete the partition witht the new install and have your full drive back(using partition magic to merge the partitions back together)

Lancool PC K62
Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 07:40am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Ok guys, thanks very much for your help!

One more thing (sorry!!!)

I like the idea of the swap and then repair install. I don't suppose you could show me a quick step by step on the order in which I should do things? For instance, I'm not sure whether this method would require me to ininstall old drivers first. Would really appreciate it.

Sorry to be a pain! You guys are legends!!!!

Thanks

J

Abit IC-7
P4 2.8GHz Northwood (OC 3.46GHz)
80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit
Dublin_Gunner Oct 12, 2005, 07:51am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Ok simple quick guide.

Uninstall mobo/chipset gfx and sound drivers.

Shut down PC.

Install new mobo as usual, making sure everything is in correctly.

Restart machine and go into BIOS. Se CD to 1st boot device. Make any changes needed to BIOS with settings you need (hd setup, peripheral setup etc)

Restart machine with XP disk in drive.

When it says if you want to 'repair another install, or install new' chose 'install new'

On the next screen (after pressing f8 to accept EULA) you will see another option to repair. Chose this option, and let windows install for the usual 39 minutes (will be quicker depending on your setup)

Make sure to have your CD key handy.

Go into windows and re-install all needed drivers. After the numerous restarts required to install same, you should be good to go.

This will keep all your old applications and settings.

Lancool PC K62
Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 08:04am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
When you say changes to BIOS, what do you mean? Will it tell me this in the mobo manual?

Also my new mobo came with a CD and floppy disk. Unfortunately I don't have a floppy drive!!! Do I need one???

Thanks by the way - this is an awesome guide.

Many thanks!

J

Abit IC-7
P4 2.8GHz Northwood (OC 3.46GHz)
80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit
Omniscient Oct 12, 2005, 08:09am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Mobo Manual will have details about changing boot device.

It's normally called boot order, or priority - simply put it tells the PC what order to read physical devices (CD, floppy HDD, usb-fdd/hdd etc) in order to boot.

You want Cd-rom before hdd so that it boots off windows cd to perform repair installation.

Mobo came with a floppy disk? Wow - ?? got me on that. The CD with the mobo will contain the drivers you don't need to use them until after mobo is installed and repair installation has been performed. So no i don't believe you need a floppy drive.

J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 08:19am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Cool. So, to clarify, I do the XP repair install before installing the motherboard drivers?

Abit IC-7
P4 2.8GHz Northwood (OC 3.46GHz)
80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit
Omniscient Oct 12, 2005, 08:30am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Affirmative

J Bothroyd Oct 12, 2005, 08:41am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing Motherboard Wothout Reinstalling
Phew! Great!

Thanks for all your help, sincerely. I will let you know how I get on!

Peace

J

Abit IC-7
P4 2.8GHz Northwood (OC 3.46GHz)
80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit

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