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DeafGuy C. Nov 05, 2005, 10:39pm EST Report Abuse
Will Nvida or ATI make APG video card anymore in the future (i.e R580)?


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G. G. Nov 05, 2005, 10:45pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
We will most likely see the continual trend to PCI-e. In the future I would think that AGP would end up in the mid range and then get worked down to budget and then finally to out of phase.

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Surpher805 Nov 05, 2005, 11:30pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
I would like to see AGP phased out as it is obviously slower and we have kinda reached the ceiling as far as speed we can get out of the AGP Bus.
I would although like to see the prices for PCI-e come down a bit too.
I remeber when the top of the line ATI All In Wonder Pro (128)....I think thats what it was..... was less that $250.
those were the good ol' days.......oh well the "price" you pay for advances in technology.

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DeafGuy C. Nov 06, 2005, 12:39am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
Well there isn't any noticeable difference between APG and PCI-E YET.

Arsey Iervasi Perfomance Junkie Extreme Nov 06, 2005, 12:46am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
we might as well face it....agp is practically dead...but what we do need is a thing that can let you put ur agp card into a pci-e slot

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DarK_SlayeR Nov 06, 2005, 01:37am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
AGP is only dead because the video card and mobo makers have said it's dead. For gaming, there is no difference between AGP 8X and PCI-E. In theory, AGP 8X could be a great platform for the next 2-3 years.
The hardware makers don't see this as clearly as I do. I think that the 7800GTX and X1800XT NEED to be AGP,
the final AGP cards. That would be one hell of a way to go out, that's for sure. I'm not goint to plunk down cash for a new video card and mobo, just for PCI-E. That would be at least an extra $100. That's inconsideret on the makers part. I know that's how they do business, but that dosn't mean I have to like it. I do not like being limited to my X800XT as the top. Sure, there's the X850, but that wouldn't be a smart buy. Ain't business grand?

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David Nov 06, 2005, 05:08am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
There was talk about ATI making tan AGP version of the X1600 series, whether they do or not.............well, just wait and see.

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J H Nov 07, 2005, 12:42pm EST Report Abuse
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Slayer, dude i totaly 100% agree with you, you took the words right outof my mouth. When i upgrade i have to buy pci wich sucks, cause i have like 5 agp cards and i can always put one in to see if i have any problems etc. And the freakin extra money, blahhh.

About my spelling, If you say anything about it im gonna hunt your nerdy english aniel retentive arrrssse down and beat the elcrapo right out of you!!!!
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Adam Kolak Nov 07, 2005, 05:06pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
Theres barely a difference between AGP 4X and AGP 8X. I have had my 6800 on two different motherboards, one 4x and one 8x, and the 8X AGP only did gained about 2-4FPS in benchmarks over the 4X.

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Plug & Play Nov 07, 2005, 05:17pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?

PCI-e has twice the banwidth of AGP its just not used to its full potential. In computer terms its still a relatively new format. There is no difference as of yet with PCI-e over AGP. But then again there is no advantage having a 4800+ X2 over a single core SD3700+ in games either, YET!!!

Give it time it will be more benifical in the future.


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ian elliott Nov 10, 2005, 01:20pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
They have basically killed off AGP because all they want is our money. We have to buy new motherboards everything else because they don't want us to use our older stuff. its all about the money.

PCI-EX is better platform but at the moment they don't even use all the AGP x4 bandwidth, Settings at AGPx4 over x8 yeld no difference.

be prepared for pci-express2,3..,4...,8 etc before they kill that off with a new slot, lets call it 'AGP-Express'. and we are back at the beginning again.





Dublin_Gunner Nov 10, 2005, 03:12pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
No difference between AGP 4x and 8x??? You're joking right.

Lets see how well an x850xt pe running FEAR at 1600x1200 would fare on AGP 4x setting??? lol

It nearly maxes out 8x

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Merc Nov 10, 2005, 03:30pm EST Report Abuse
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Here is on way to extend your AGP card's life. An adpater that plugs into a PCIe socket and then you plug your AGP card int it and your off and running. http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/news/news_detail.asp?news_id=167

Another way is to egt a mobo with both and AGP8x and PCIe 16x socket. I believe Newegg has a 939 board for $70 or so that use the ULI chipset to do this.

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Josh Nov 10, 2005, 03:33pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Future APG graphic card?
"No difference between AGP 4x and 8x??? You're joking right.
Lets see how well an x850xt pe running FEAR at 1600x1200 would fare on AGP 4x setting??? lol
It nearly maxes out 8x"
No, it doesn't nearly max out AGP 8X. The 7800GTX won't see any performance difference between AGP8X and PCI-E. Nor will the x1800. And the next gen won't, either.

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