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BrinNutz May 29, 2006, 10:01pm EDT Report Abuse
Ok, I have decided to take the plunge..LOL..into water cooling. And do a few little upgrades along the way! I have also just gotten two 74gb Raptors purchased for $220 shipped, and also a COOLER MASTER CM Stacker STC-T01-UWK with the Cooler master crossflow fan, and am in the process of trying to get an Asus A832-MVP board too...And trying to either sell my X1900XTX or trade it for a 7900GTX.
Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119039
Fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16800887011

Here's a pic of the actual case I'm gettin (his picture) with fan controllers installed and stuff...which I probably won't need.
http://img315.imageshack.us/my.php?image=overallfront1sx.jpg

And a few fans pre-installed from the previous owner and a couple fan controllers along with the 4 in 3 drive bay converter thingy. I'll post the pics in a minute...But, I got this all for $160 shipped, good deal! Now I'll have to mod the case for a 3x120 Radiator I'll get in the future, and maybe a custom resevoir.
I'm also going to be getting a second PSU for the cooling. Maybe I'll run the DVD Drives off of it as well. Guess it's time for a couple of those too!

My Danger Den water cooling setup :
Danger Den Tyee (for X1900XTX, will be ordering tonite!)
Thermochill PA120.1 radiator
Danger Den D5 12v pump
Danger Den TDX Copper w/Lucite top for AMD64 754/939/940
Danger Den Maze4 Acetal Lowpro w/6xxx & 7xxx mounting brackets (don't think I'll have a use for this, unless I get a 7900GTX and it fits that too..)
20' Tygon Anti-Kink tubing
Typhoon Dual 5 1/4" UV Blue reservoir
PA120.1 radiator shroud
Swiftech MCB-120 Radbox external radiator mounting kit
2x Thermaltake 120mm blue led fans w/3 pin connectors
2x 32oz Primochill ICE UV Blue NON-Conductive Fluid
2x rolls teflon tape
10x steel hose clamps
10x blue plastic hose clamps
16x Zalman BGA Ramsinks
miscellaneous fittings and adapters and elbows
Pic of the Water cooling stuff!
http://img334.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dangerdensetup26ty.jpg

I am also thinking about getting a Peltier for my CPU to see what kind of an effect that will have, though I don't really know what I'm doing with that, so maybe that will come later.

Let me know what you think...The rig in my sig is the one that will be going into the new case...plus the 2 Raptors...I'll see what I can do with RAID 0, never ventured into that world yet, but I want the performance. too bad it won't be ready for forum wars, even though we (HWA), won't be in it. =(


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Mike L. May 29, 2006, 10:24pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing it up on my rig...=)
RAID is beautiful, especially RAID-0.. I litterally hooked up my first array like three weeks ago and it has been running solid ever since. By the way, since I haven't the foggiest clue about watercooling, all my prayers are with you. Hope nothing goes wrong. :) Goodluck bro!

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BrinNutz May 29, 2006, 10:27pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Changing it up on my rig...=)
Thanks Mike, I may make a worklog...we'll see though!! LOL..At least I'll take pics along the way! I will also probably need some help determining how to setup the lines and which way to run everything.

Ian Yeoh May 29, 2006, 11:16pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: BrinNutz is taking the Plunge!! Upgrades!!!!
Great stuff, man. About the raptors... if you want optimization, try 32k stripes and 16k NTFS clusters. If you want pure speed, use 64k stripes and 64k clusters (yes, it wastes a lot of space). Speak to me when you start setting up the raid set.

BrinNutz May 29, 2006, 11:17pm EDT Report Abuse
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Yea, but I want more..he only had two for sale..

Ian Yeoh May 29, 2006, 11:19pm EDT Report Abuse
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Go slow dude :) start with two:) Not everyone needs to do 12, like me :).

Make sure you don't use that Silicon Image garbage on your DFI! Not intended at DFI.. Asus has the same crap as well.

Congratulations on the Stacker!! Awesome!!

BrinNutz May 29, 2006, 11:20pm EDT Report Abuse
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LOL..I wanted more, for another system..hehe

The what Ian?

Ian Yeoh May 29, 2006, 11:22pm EDT Report Abuse
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The Stacker... the case, man!!

Order another 4-in-3 adapter.. you can use one more 120mm fan in front even if you don't need the drive space

BrinNutz May 29, 2006, 11:23pm EDT Report Abuse
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Ian...MSN Messenger?

BrinNutz May 29, 2006, 11:23pm EDT Report Abuse
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what Silicon Image, what's that? Is that some RAID thingy?? I'm still learning all that stuff..first attempt at a RAID 0 array

Ian Yeoh May 29, 2006, 11:25pm EDT Report Abuse
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Sorry man, got to go sleep soon. Work. Your DFI has two raid controllers, Nvidia and Silicon Image. Use the Nvidia one. The Manual,man. I will guide you.

BrinNutz May 29, 2006, 11:29pm EDT Report Abuse
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Roger that...I will let you know when I get them!! It's going to be a month before I put the system together...I think..hehe..I'm moving into the new house we're building mid June..so I have to start packing up my puter's and stuff soon!

Oops it comes with two, 4 in 3 modules!

here's the pic of the actual one I'm getting!
http://img315.imageshack.us/my.php?image=overallfront1sx.jpg

Kimon May 29, 2006, 11:51pm EDT Report Abuse
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OMG it has SIX!!!! front usb ports. Now thats cool

Gerritt May 30, 2006, 12:25am EDT Report Abuse
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Wilson,
Check out the rig in my sig. Pretty close to what you're going for.
A couple of observations.

I went with the Thermaltake Kandalf Chassis because it had lots of space (but still not enough it comes to be) and also had the knockouts on the rear of the chassis to permit the tubing passthrough.

One of the reasons that I returned my DFI Lanparty MB is that I couldn't see a way to watercool the chipset and have a SLI configuration (the second GPU rides over the top of the chipset so I couldn't mount a waterblock on it, so I went with the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium (which comes with a fanless chipset cooler, but I put in a waterblock anyway).

Dangerden has a waterblock specificly designed for the NV7900. I have the NV78 for my 7800GTX and it provides waterblock cooling for the GPU and memory (on the front side of the card). My card has half the RAM mounted on the back of the card so had to incorporate some OCZ RAMSINKS there or the card became unstable.

I can't tell for sure, but it appears you went with a 3/8" ID tubing. I went with the 1/2" tygon tubing myself as I am running serially between the waterblocks (as you appear to be also) and need the higher flow. I also opted for a Eheim 1250 120VAC pump for a few reasons. One, I always have flow if I want it, even if and when the system is shut down, secondly because of the much higher flow (1200lph), as well as the 0 impact on the PSU and the proven reliability of this motor/pump in other applications.

For cooling of a single processor OR GPU a single 120mm radiator is plenty, but when you combine a CPU, GPU and/or chipset, the radiative surface may not be enough. Of course with some Ys off of your pump output you could probably combine a couple of "single" (120mm) radiators to provide the extra cooling. In my case I couldn't do that, so went with a BlackIce Extreme III (triple) radiator and 3x120mm fans with a moderate speed. In your case it looks like your reservoir can take up to 4 discrete returns so you sould be able to expand your radiators in the future if need be.

You may want to consider a couple of fill ports, one for filling and one to drain the system. I have a fillport on the top of my system and a drainport on the bottom. Thank goodness for Dremel!

Peltiers are another whole can of worms! You should have a dedicated specialized PSU for them, you have to seal your system to prevent condensation, and you'll be burning 3 times the electricity to keep your system cool. I'm not familiar with your coolant, I went with MCT-40 (rated for operation at -40degrees F), but with the same type of displacement I ended up needing over 64oz.

Hmmm, the only other thing I can say is that my TDX block is silver faced, but if you polish the copper face of the one that you have you can probably achieve or surpass the thermal delta given by the silver surfacing. Just look for "lapping" at any of the OC forums for the details.

What I've achieved is CPU/GPU/Chipset of 24/7 max load 42/38/36 degrees with a 4800+ OC on a 4400+ CPU, a XFX7800GTX running 490/1300MHz, and DDR400 ram.

It's not the "greatest" system in the world, but has run almost a year with no HW malfunctions, and few SW/OS malfunctions and it's reletively quiet.

Good luck to you!

Gerritt





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BoT May 30, 2006, 12:47am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: BrinNutz is taking the Plunge!! Upgrades!!!!
5...4...3...2...1..... brin..we have lift off.
this is gonna be a friggn awesome rig. :)
best of luck
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BrinNutz May 30, 2006, 09:45am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: BrinNutz is taking the Plunge!! Upgrades!!!!
Gerrit,

The tubing is 1/2 ID I believe, I'll measure it tonite. but it's pretty large. As for the triple radiator, I am going to order one, I just need to find the Black Ice Extreme III for a good price. As I said in the first post, I plan on modding the case to fit the triple rad I'll be getting, And I'll probably set up the rig something like this

Resevior, pump, CPU, single rad, GPU, triple rad. (on the outthere will be a t-line with the fillport tied into it here which will be modded to hopefully fit on the top of the case, so it's easier to fill), and then back to the resevoir.

I went with the Stacker case because of the need for 2 PSU's. I'm thinking of getting 2 WD Caviar 16mb 7200rpm, 320gb HDD for storage as well.

BrinNutz May 30, 2006, 10:58am EDT Report Abuse
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BrinNutz May 30, 2006, 12:04pm EDT Report Abuse
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Also, I am getting a new truck this week..well, new to me!!

It's a 1997 Chevy Silverado Extended Cab with a 350 V8, 2 wheel drive, In excellent condition, dual exhaust!!! I'm stoked, and had a 98 just like it, but sold it when I was in the Navy. I love these trucks!

w00t...

Not too many people seem interested in this thread..=(

Ian Yeoh May 30, 2006, 12:09pm EDT Report Abuse
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Nice truck! Does it have the 4WD option in winter or is it 2WD only ?

BrinNutz May 30, 2006, 12:14pm EDT Report Abuse
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2wd only...no need for 4wd, especially with that old of a truck...ya know?

Ian, what do you think about the way I'll be running that h2o cooling, think it's a good route?

And that Opteron I posted before that?

Ian Yeoh May 30, 2006, 12:23pm EDT Report Abuse
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You equipment looks great. I have no practical experience, so I cannot comment about the application of said H2O cooling. For me, personally, I have nixed the idea because I am a non-overclocker (unless its a contest.. and you're welcomed to join me if you want). I get into enough headaches just maintaining the software-end on my machines.

That Opteron is a monster. The Plextor is very good, but keep in mind that its 3x the price of another brand. I highly recommend it, but its a pure luxury.


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