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chris d Jul 14, 2006, 02:47pm EDT Report Abuse
I have an old laptop as a 2nd computer but windows xp isnt good for it. Which version of windows should I use Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows NT 4 , Windows 2000?


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FordGT90Concept Jul 14, 2006, 02:54pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
Windows 98 SE. It's more stable than ME and supports more modern stuff like USB and larger partitions than Windows 95.

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Lou Bot Jul 14, 2006, 03:18pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
Good post chris because it give me an excuse to talk about a new Windows OS for older PC's that can not run under XP or Vista

Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs

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Currently scheduled for release in June 2006, Microsoft Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs is a Windows-based operating system designed for customers who have older computers running earlier operating systems and who are not in a position to purchase new hardware. This operating system is available only to Microsoft Software Assurance customers and helps you get the most from your older hardware, thereby reducing your total cost of ownership. This Software Assurance benefit provides improvements to security and manageability to reduce the strain on your IT team, improve end-user productivity, and close security gaps.

Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs is based on Microsoft Windows XP Embedded Service Pack 2 (SP2), enabling you to upgrade to the security and stability of the Microsoft Windows XP platform. This eases the transition to Windows Vista Enterprise when you eventually replace your computers.

Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs is not a general-purpose operating system. It is designed to work with the Microsoft Remote Desktop Connection client or third-party clients such as the Citrix ICA client. In addition, it allows for a limited number of workloads to be executed locally, including security software, management software, terminal emulation software, document viewers, and the .NET Framework

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andrew kairis Jul 14, 2006, 03:53pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
*cough* well we know someone's on MS payrole.

if its based on XP SP2 it probably slower than 98se would be.

Here's some things to think about:
1 when fully patched 98se was a darn good/ stable OS (though it did need a reinstall every year or so because it slowed down)
2 security issues aren't as bad, all the virus writers and company are coding for XP because that is what the masses have plus "yeah I made a win98 virus the other day" right.... like that would get any virus coder some respect, so you beat an OS that microsoft stopped patching big whoop.
3 much less overhead, I had it running on a machiene with 16mb ram and it did fine, much less hdd space used.
4 98se IS a general purpose OS unlike that Fundamentals OS being SOLD above.
5 Fundamentals appears to be geared toward enterprise users.

Don't Run windows ME unless it came pre-installed on the computer, its known to be buggy and microsoft even discontinued support for it when they were STILL supporting the OLDER 98se OS.

NT4 and 2K are both good OS's NT4 is not as widely compatible as 98SE, 2K probably has a larger resource foot print.

Suggestion: search for a licence for 98se
http://www.discountedsoftware.com/ (didn't have much luck myself) I got a 98SE licence, and downloaded the files for like 14 bucks a couple years ago. So long as its a legitimate licence from microsoft its 100% legal, it doesn't matter where you get the files because you can't use the software without a valid licence.

Hmm... crap.... good luck finding another one that cheap though.... I'm having issues locating one uner 50

<a class= Jul 14, 2006, 04:10pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
98 SE

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jul 14, 2006, 04:14pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
XP will run on a system with 256MB ram when streamlined.

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CrAsHnBuRnXp Jul 14, 2006, 04:19pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
Id put Windows 98SE on there.

Greg M Jul 14, 2006, 04:26pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
XP fundamentals. It can run on 128MB RAM WITHOUT any virtual memory usage.

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jul 14, 2006, 04:32pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
well it will be sluggish with 128 dude, 98SE- If was still supported, would be lightning on the newer stuff compared to XP, if you enable the Way the system acts( Special Server Enable feature) Only if it 98SE would run on more than 1 gig of ram (figure out a way to modify the memory manager)

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brian pope Jul 14, 2006, 05:38pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
Go with 2000 Pro if you can get a copy, 98se is dead, gone from MS support of any sort.
Unless you already have all the 98se updates it's now a waste of time, you won't be getting any updates via MS.
You can run 2000 with 128MB of RAM but 256MB is preferable.

Liquid Shadow Jul 14, 2006, 05:39pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
I'd go with Windows 2000.



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Supreet Virdi Jul 14, 2006, 05:42pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
I completely agree with Brian Pope. Install Windows 2000 Professional (with all Service packs), its a nice Operating System, especially with only 128MB of RAM.

CrAsHnBuRnXp Jul 14, 2006, 05:45pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
What is the hard drive size?

Dublin_Gunner Jul 14, 2006, 06:22pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
Yep I'd have to say Win 2k also, fully supported like XP, most things coded for XP work fine on 2k (even drivers are mostly bundled together)

Although if you're interested I have a copy of 98se I could give to ya, PM me about price (will be very cheap)

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FordGT90Concept Jul 14, 2006, 07:08pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
One big downside of Windows 95 is IE 6 is not supported (stuck with IE 5.5).

Windows 95 uses about 1 MB of RAM at idle. Windows 98 SE uses about 5 MB of RAM at idle.

Windows XP Home and Professional chokes on 128 MB and experiences major performance loss unless you're only using the calculator. 256 MB is OK but it slows down on anything demanding (i.e. big spreadsheets or presentations). 384 MB is fine for the typical user with enough breathing room to do some multitasking.

Windows XP Professional x64 Edition really needs 512 MB to not choke.

You can still get updates for Windows 95/98 (very rarely new unless it's in relations to IE 6) but don't bother emailing them for help on any Windows 9x OS (95, 98, and ME). Heck, emailing MS about any of their software is rare unless you're special (working with MS on something).

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Hans Moleman Jul 14, 2006, 08:15pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
I would strongly recommend 2000. 98se is adequate but MS doesn't support it anymore and it doesn't have all the features of 2000. Win Me is crap so don't touch it. So is Win 95. Windows NT isn't bad but it doesn't support USB and MS doesn't give any updates or support for it anymore.

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richard williams Jul 14, 2006, 08:25pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
I used to have computer with only 96MB of RAM and a 1300MHz CPU back in 2002, running windows XP. It was crap. It broke down about 5 times and was so slow you wouldn't believe it.

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chris d Jul 15, 2006, 01:53am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
This is the origional poster. The computer I am talking about is a laptop that is used as a 2nd computer but I want to be able to use it more often, later to turn into a linux firewall. My laptop is a PII 366 MHz currently running at 266MHz. I have 192 MB ram, which is mixed memory 64 x pc100 and 128 x pc66. I'm getting better memory off ebay, but I am capped at 256 MB total. I also have a 6 GB hard drive. So, I'm not working with much, but I also dont want to spend any real money on this computer either.

My options are windows 98se, 2000, Fundamentals and Linux. I still dont know whats best for me. I would like to be able to install linux and another operating system but I would have to create 3 partitions right? Better to keep 1 partition on a 6GB drive?

keep the responses coming, I'm learning alot.

Supreet Virdi Jul 15, 2006, 04:28am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
I've recently installed Windows XP SP2 on one of my Clients computer, and he's having 333MHz Celeron CPU, 128MB RAM, 10GB Hard Disk. Initially, the installation took almost 50 minutes, but Windows was runing fine after it was installed. I also switched the theme to "Windows Classic Theme".

Windows 2000 is very good Operating system, with very less memory requirement, and to be honest, I just hate the Windows 98SE crappy Task Manager. But make sure you grab all the Service packs for Windows 2000, I reckon there are 4 Service packs for Windows 2000.

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jul 15, 2006, 06:14am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
i say put Win 2k on the system as its not as bulky as XP and seems more streamlined for everyday and gaming use.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
brian pope Jul 15, 2006, 07:10am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: What version of windows should I install on a slow computer? XP is too bulky for me
If your getting new memory, replace all of it!
Don't reuse any of the existing dimms, this should prevent having any compatibility issues between the old brands & new one's.
Get either one 256MB PC100 dimm or two 128MB dimms.

I've run both 98se & 2000 Pro with numerous different Linux distros & haven't had any issues.

Because of the age of your laptop, I'd suggest you spend a little time checking for & downloading the various MB drivers before hand. Download the original drivers along with any newer versions but pay attention to any release notes for the newer versions as sometimes you may not want to use the newer drivers.

Pay particular attention to the video drivers & the version of DirectX they support, you may not be able to run DirectX 9 without experiencing some problems.

With Windows 2000 you'll need to install "SP4" plus "Update Rollup 1 for Windows 2000 SP4 Version 2" before any other updates & in that order.

There's over 300 post SP4 updates within the Update Rollup so it's a pretty important update. After both of these are installed there's still another 47 updates as of June 16/06

You should be able to dual boot with that 6GB HD, just partition 50/50 & install the windows OS first.
You'll want to set your recycle bin to zero & change your pagefile size to a fixed size of 300MB or 400MB to conserve space.

If you go with 2000 there's about 19 services you'll want to disable completely to save on resources.


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