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Hans Moleman Jul 23, 2007, 11:16pm EDT Report Abuse
Hey guys, I'm finally getting rid of my old 6800GT and looking to upgrade so I'd love any advice you could give. I'm looking to spend under $150.

I would really like something that is cool and quiet, but especially cool. I'm tired of the massive amount of heat produced by my 6800GT. The thing idles at around 70 degrees and after playing Oblivion it can get over 90 degrees. When it was new those temps were more like 60 and 80, but I suppose age takes its toll. My case is well ventilated and my CPU idles at 28 under stock cooling and hits 35 at max load.

I'm leaning towards either an 8600GT or an 8600GTS so I'll have DX10 compatibility should I need it in the future. I'm just wondering if anyone has experience with those cards that can give me a specific recommendation.


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CrAsHnBuRnXp Jul 23, 2007, 11:28pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
The low end G80 cards are nice and are better than the GeForce 7 series cards, but it wont allow you to play games on high in DX10 mode and quite possibly DX9. Not 100% on the high settings for the low end G80 or not. I would like a confirmation.

FordGT90Concept Jul 23, 2007, 11:37pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
8600 GT and 8600 GTS are both good cards and should be a relatively significant boost in performance from a 6800 GT. Direct3D 10 and Pixel Shader 4 are also big pluses.

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El Jul 24, 2007, 08:58am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
i'd go here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102067

The X1950XT will run circles around the 8600GTS in all its DirectX 9 glory. DX10 is quite new and won't be an absolute requirement for at least 2 more years. This is the best deal in videocards right now. It makes me want to get it because I know it would beat my 7900GT that I paid $300 for way back when!

Hans Moleman Jul 24, 2007, 02:51pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card

AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+
ABit AN8 Ultra nForce4 Ultra Chipset
MSI 9800GT OC 512MB
CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1 GB) DDR 400
Antec 500W PSU
Dublin_Gunner Jul 24, 2007, 03:00pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
Newegg is the last place i'd be looking at reviews! Lots of n00bs pointing out their thoughts...


Just google HD2900 2600 review, there are hundreds on the web.

Go to the likes of anandtech.com, guru3d.com & bit-tech.net amongst others, they all have good reviews

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Hans Moleman Jul 24, 2007, 03:03pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
DublinGunner said:
Newegg is the last place i'd be looking at reviews! Lots of n00bs pointing out their thoughts...


Just google HD2900 2600 review, there are hundreds on the web.

Go to the likes of anandtech.com, guru3d.com & bit-tech.net amongst others, they all have good reviews


Good point. It's too much trouble sifting through the people there that have no idea what they are talking about.

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Supreet Virdi Jul 24, 2007, 07:04pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
I know my opinions are not welcome here HWA. But if you get NVIDIA 8500/8600 (or even ATI 2400/2600) that would be a bad idea, you'd not be able to play any DX10 game (even some newer DX9 games) with all eye candy. You want a DX10 card, so that you could play games, with some detail and good FPS right?

You say you don't upgrade too often, but if you go with those cards mentioned above (in my post) in about a year when some highly DX10 shader intense games come out you'd be playing games as Powerpoint presentation.

Also remember this is first generation of DX10 video cards. Now remember playing Doom3 or HL2 on FX5200/5600 or ATI 9500/9600, hence my point.

phil Jul 24, 2007, 08:31pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
you want to upgrade? why?
.. your card is still half decent, worthwhile dx10 games don't exist, neither do drivers, both nvidia and amd/ati midrange cards are complete horseshit (midrange= sub 320gts)

unless, you absolutely want and need a new card to play some game that you're addicted to worse then crack... then just sit back, leave the money in your wallet and relax.. wait to see the industry BS to settle, or a new card, or to save enough to buy a high end card.

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Adam Kolak Jul 24, 2007, 09:08pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
Anything less than a 8800GTS isn't even gonna do justice for real DX10 games. And I think this is what Supreet, Phil, and others were saying as well.

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Hans Moleman Jul 24, 2007, 09:13pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
Phil verhey said:
you want to upgrade? why?
.. your card is still half decent, worthwhile dx10 games don't exist, neither do drivers, both nvidia and amd/ati midrange cards are complete horseshit (midrange= sub 320gts)


I'd like to upgrade because I'm tired of having a card that idles at over 70 degrees and brings up the ambient temperature in my case. Sure it's still a half decent card for gaming, but after playing Oblivion for a while it over heats and my entire computer crashes. I have the fan on it set to its highest setting and that doesn't help it stay any cooler. I figure this is a good time to sell the thing on eBay while there are still people willing to pay money for it.

Perhaps it's not worth it to go DX10 yet, but I really need a cooler card and I wouldn't mind having something that could run some of my games on higher or even the highest settings.

AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+
ABit AN8 Ultra nForce4 Ultra Chipset
MSI 9800GT OC 512MB
CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1 GB) DDR 400
Antec 500W PSU
phil Jul 24, 2007, 09:19pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/07/24/hd_2600_and_geforce_8600/page6.html

well it looks like 7900GTX, evga 8600GTS, Sapphire x1950 pro ultimate, X1950XTX, all give playable frame rates outdoors in oblivion .. so i guess which ever you can get for the cheapest.

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Adam Kolak Jul 24, 2007, 10:13pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
It's pretty sad the 8600GTS gets smoked by a X1950 Pro, isn't that like a really cheap card these days? I almost remember seeing one for maybe like $120 USD.

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phil Jul 24, 2007, 10:21pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Need advice upgrading my video card
Adam K. said:
It's pretty sad the 8600GTS gets smoked by a X1950 Pro, isn't that like a really cheap card these days? I almost remember seeing one for maybe like $120 USD.



i like how the 8* series cards all have a score of ZERO (not sure why) at 2560x1600 res.

but anyhow, if you read the article from the beginning, you really get a sense of how the author (Darren Polkowski) has the hate on for the midrange cards and the money grab BS conspiracy by both ATI and nvida to f**k the consumer into buying a $300+ card, the same as me :P

.. but any how, just buy the cheaper of those cards, if you watch alot of video, buy ATI (see later on in the review, cpu usage while playing movie) , if you can buy used (alot of cheap x1900, x1950, 7800, 7900 cards out right now) thats the best bet, as long as the cards not fried. ;)

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