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Hector Maldonado Aug 22, 2007, 02:15pm EDT Report Abuse
I bought a socket 478 Intel Penitum 4 3.0 GHz / 1M / 800 SL7PM CPU for my computer and after replacing my 2.0A ghz 400 P4 chip my computer shuts down after being turned on. Then I decided to place the 2.0A ghz P4 chip back in. The computer seemed to power on normally, but then it shut down again. Can anyone help me?

I have an ASUS P4S800D-X motherboard powered by a 500 watt power box. I have three sticks of DDR ram (1) 512mb, (1) 1gb, and (1) 256mb stick.


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G. G. Aug 22, 2007, 02:39pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
Initially it sounds like the hsf is not seated properly. how far does the boot goes before shutting back down? does it make it through bios and into booting windows before shutting down or does it make it into windows befoer shutting down.... Good contact between cpu and hsf is when after spreading thermal past and installing the sink... if you were to lift the sink... the paste should be almost squished out... having a very consistant film across the heat spreader.

next.... if you are sure that you have good contact with the HSF..... try unplugging components you dont need to bring up the system... like memory dimms... run with only one... unplug extra hdd and opticals not needed... maybe even add-in cards.. basically reduce the amount of power needed from the psu to bring up the system... it might be a case of you had your psu for such a long time that it is worn out and that by putting in a higher draw cpu that may have just put your psu over the edge from once working to a non working situation. try this out and see if there is any change.

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Hector Maldonado Aug 22, 2007, 02:49pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
I forgot to mention that the power supply sometimes makes a noise and I have to bang on my case to make it stop.

G. G. Aug 22, 2007, 03:10pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
LOL......

Well..... that might be a sign that your psu is starting to kick the bucket... LOL

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Hector Maldonado Aug 22, 2007, 03:23pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
I just ran my computer with minimal components and took out two of my DDR ram sticks and am running with 1gb of ram. It seems to be doing fine, but do I need to get a new PSU for my pc?

G. G. Aug 22, 2007, 04:06pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
with that minimal configuration.... try installing the newer cpu to make sure that the system can boot into windows and that the new cpu is working.... then try each of the Dimm individually to make sure than not one of them are bad... then at this point... you can either 1. add each component one at a time in to see how far you can go .... or 2. buy a new psu... personally I would make sure you newer cpu and the rest of the dimms are working individually and then get a new psu.

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Hector Maldonado Aug 22, 2007, 05:15pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
The CPU and all of my ram sticks work, so I am going to have to get a new PSU.

G. G. Aug 22, 2007, 05:47pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
That would be a good idea... things do wear out..

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Bungle Aug 22, 2007, 07:05pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
naah, just start using a 2x4 to bang on it... after a while it takes more "coaxing" to get stuff to work. :)

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vulcan raven Aug 22, 2007, 07:43pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
computers + physical violence = not good.

plus i cant believe you bought a prescott 478. you coulda bought my old rare HT northwood core 3.4!

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Hector Maldonado Aug 23, 2007, 09:44am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
how much are you selling it for?

Lou Bot Aug 23, 2007, 03:27pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
vulcan raven said:
computers + physical violence = not good.

plus i cant believe you bought a prescott 478. you coulda bought my old rare HT northwood core 3.4!


True - You can also flash your mobo BIOS. If it is an Intel mobo chances are they will have an update (BIOS) to support the latest P-4 (478 socket) processors .

On a side note - My gf's Gateway computer can support a Prescott but Gateway has the BIOS locked....I can't flash it to the latest BIOS for a Prescott...stuck with a Norwood and 1/2 MB of cache :(

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Hector Maldonado Aug 24, 2007, 05:14pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
I got a new PSU and it turns out that that is not the problem? What shall I do? Could the CPU be overheating, I never got to put thermal past on it. I am waiting for my new CPU kit to come in.

Lou Bot Aug 24, 2007, 07:22pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=e...=P4S800D-X

Make sure your BIOS ver is 1002 or higher. Does your memory support 800MHz? If one of your memory sticks does support 800MHz FSB then try to run off that stick...remove the other two memory sticks.

MSI K8N NEO4 SLI(MS7100) BIOS3.A
AMD Opteron185 @2.86
2GB PC4000 2.5-3-3-8 2T
2xBFG 7800GTX 256MB (91.31)
2xRaptor74RAID0
Enermax EG651P-VE 24P & CS-718
"Thee BEST chip is a Dorrito Chip
Hector Maldonado Aug 24, 2007, 07:55pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
Huh? All of my memory sticks are 400 mhz

Lou Bot Aug 25, 2007, 08:44am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
Sorry I made no sense.

Ok here is what I think is the problem:

One - BIOS (what version? and if you can update it)
recommend to go to Asus forum and find out which BIOS is stable. Asus has a fair share of releasing crap BIOS.

Two - CPU (it may be bad, improperly placed...you need thermal paste, or incompatible).
You can get OEM CPU from this place.
(P4-3GHz-E 1MB L2 cache) http://www.pcprogress.com/product.asp?m1=pw&pid=INP4%2D800%2D3001MOEM

(P4-3GHz 512MB L2 cache) http://www.pcprogress.com/product.asp?orderid=1030754667712703...0%2D300OEM

Three - memory (currently they are mix-match....are they the same speed?) I recommend buying a memory kit which is a matching pair.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80...icegrabber (my recommedation)

I have looked at your mobo's manual. The BIOS should detect and automatically the CPU and memory, there is no setting to change. The problem you are having is compatibility issue. I am incline to say it is your CPU from my past experince. Good Luck

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Chris McGee Aug 25, 2007, 09:03am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
Hector Maldonado said:
I got a new PSU and it turns out that that is not the problem? What shall I do? Could the CPU be overheating, I never got to put thermal past on it. I am waiting for my new CPU kit to come in.


Do you mean you're running it without any thermal paste? That's probably not a good idea, especially if it's a prescott.

phil Aug 25, 2007, 01:00pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
as chris just pointed out... you really want to put some paste on it... lol or you're going/have already cooked your prescott.. or as i call 'em "pesky presckies"

.. clean your chip and HSF with chip cleaner, or alchohol and a q-tip.. stick on a drop (size of uncooked grain of rice) then mount it to you board.

if you don't you might as well just throw it against the wall and spit on it.

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pfft ..f**k that! (almost sounds like work)
Hector Maldonado Aug 25, 2007, 02:12pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
I don't believe that I cooked it. I already ordered a new HSF and thermal paste. I just got to wait for it to arrive. Thanks for the help, guys.

vulcan raven Aug 26, 2007, 11:53am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
Lou Bot said:
vulcan raven said:
computers + physical violence = not good.

plus i cant believe you bought a prescott 478. you coulda bought my old rare HT northwood core 3.4!


True - You can also flash your mobo BIOS. If it is an Intel mobo chances are they will have an update (BIOS) to support the latest P-4 (478 socket) processors .

On a side note - My gf's Gateway computer can support a Prescott but Gateway has the BIOS locked....I can't flash it to the latest BIOS for a Prescott...stuck with a Norwood and 1/2 MB of cache :(


you do realise that the northwoods are better than the prescotts. prescott is probably the crappiest intel redesign this decade. a terrible bodge job, finding on average less than 10 percent more performance than the northwoods for in many instances up to 40 percent more heat! FORTY percent. which means that the 478 northwoods were the 478's to have, they killed the prescotts in average use and for overclocking. northwoods as anyone who looked into the situation at the time were the chips to be sought after. thats why my northwood is still worth some money as a rare hyperthreaded @ 3.4ghz, while the p**s poor prescotts are ten a penny

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ian elliott Aug 28, 2007, 11:12pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Just got a new P4 chip
Hector Maldonado said:
I forgot to mention that the power supply sometimes makes a noise and I have to bang on my case to make it stop.


It is possibly the fan noise, they might be dust in it.


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