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BoT Dec 31, 2007, 03:19pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
another one - intel system

MSI MBOX P4M900M2-L - $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167022

Western Digital Caviar WD400BB 40GB - $38.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822140118

ASUS Beige 52X CD-ROM E-IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM Drive - $8.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827134013R

Intel Celeron 420 Conroe-L 1.6GHz 512KB L2 Cache LGA 775 35W - low power - $38.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116040

Total: $160.97

or dual core

Intel Pentium E2140 Allendale 1.6GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core - $71.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116037

Total: $194.96


to sweet'n the deal
GIGABYTE GV-NX84G256HE GeForce 8400GS 256MB - $43.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125080

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Dr. Peaceful Jan 01, 2008, 04:07pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
DsL.Dilbert said:
bot said:
what is your idea of "ideally functional"?
what does have to be able to do, at minimum.


Well, since this is a theoretical budget build, "ideally functional" would mean basic web surfing and word processing. Generally, when people buy budget builds, that's all they are aiming for. A budget gaming build is entirely different so I don't expect any of these theoretical builds to play games well if at all.


Nice thread. Want to add a note about "basic web surfing". Web pages these days are huge in comparison to few years ago. Especially ones with fancy flash animation, video / audio streaming, and other fancy visual stuffs. So some low end chips, for example VIA C7, are only acceptable in "web surfing" performance. I know C7 myself, it's a pain in performance, even for the most basic stuffs. It's only good because of its ITX form factor.

However, by using a Linux OS, performance could improve a bit, since linux is lot more optimized and less bloated.

Donmeister Jan 01, 2008, 06:29pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
I don't think it's the cheapest, but here's one that comes close. I already built it for someone too. I'm having to go back to my newegg.com invoice history to bring up the items.

Western Digital Caviar SE WD400JD 40GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM...$39.99

AMD Sempron LE-1100 Sparta 1.9GHz Socket AM2 45W Single-Core Processor Model SDH1100DEBOX - Retail...$35.00

BIOSTAR K8M800 Micro AM2 AM2 VIA K8M800 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail...$44.99

LITE-ON Combo Black SATA Model DH-52C2S-04 - OEM...$24.99

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model VS1GB667D2 - Retail...$20.99

IN WIN IW-Z583T.J350BFU2AD Black Best Performed SECC Japanese Steel metal ATX Mini Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply - Retail...$49.99

Total for a fully functional PC is $215.99

I also threw in a Microsoft mouse and keyboard, a US Robotics modem, and a Hanns-G 17 inch widescreen monitor. With everything combined including the shipping...$449.33

Not bad ey? Could have done some better shopping and went with a cheaper optical drive and lower speed RAM and could have saved even more. One of you guys bought memory at $9.~ Impressive...

Oh, btw, here are the links. Not necessarily in any order, after all, you do have the part numbers above.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811108024
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144173
Oops, within that short amount of time, the CPU was discontinued from the site. Oh well, I'm not looking for any awards anyway.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138038
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146580

Specs and components in profile...
Adam Kolak Jan 01, 2008, 06:39pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
That's a nice build you did there for just $215 and it will be interesting to see how long that 350W PSU lasts that was included with the case.

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Dr. Peaceful Jan 02, 2008, 07:35pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
If one Must need a basic dual core, SLi and RAID machine, here's my picks for an in-expensive build (I can't call it "cheap" ;) ). I could have use some cheaper parts, but it's the most reasonable in terms of price vs. performance. I picked a non-cheap PSU with decent wattage. The mobo's packed with tons of stuffs, including bonus gigabit LAN chip. This will qualify as a basic gaming rig. Again it may not be the cheapest, but sure beat the Hell out of this piece of shnit from Apple of even slightly higher price (http://preview.tinyurl.com/2y5uda ). LOL ;)

Mobo - Price = $78.99
MSI K9N4 SLI-F AM2 NVIDIA nForce 500 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130071

CPU - Price = $53.99
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor 2.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103066

GPUs - Price = $62.99 x 2 = $125.98
MSI NX8500GT-TD256E GeForce 8500GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127285

Memory - Price = $25.99
A-DATA 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211064

PSU - Price = $89.99
COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-600-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 600W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171013

Case - Price = $34.99
COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

Hard Drives - Price = $49.99 x 2 = $99.98
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075

Optical Drive - Price = $23.99
PHILIPS Black 20X DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827248009

CPU Cooler - Price = $21.99
COOLER MASTER RR-CCH-L9U1-GP 92mm Hyper TX2 CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103031

Additional Case Fan - Price = $3.49
Rosewill RFA120-K 120mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200005

Grand Total = $559.38 (Ignoring rebates, shipping, and tax.)

Adam Kolak Jan 02, 2008, 08:17pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
Dr. Peaceful said:
Again it may not be the cheapest, but sure beat the Hell out of this piece of shnit from Apple of even slightly higher price (http://preview.tinyurl.com/2y5uda ). LOL ;)

I thought the Mac Mini started at $399 or $499. It amazes me that they can sell that at $599 and acctually get people to buy it. The thing only has one ram slot.

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Dr. Peaceful Jan 02, 2008, 10:59pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
Not only one RAM slot, you need to take that thing apart layer by layer in order to get to it. ;)

They can charged customers that much money for such low end PC, is because they have the Guts to do so, and there are insane worshipers blindly willing to pay for whatever they made. ;)

And here's more funny... there are only two "standard issued" Apple keyboards available: a very slim & small wired one, and a very tiny wireless one. As if they're saying that all of their users have Small Hands. Ha, ha, ha. ;)

Dr. Peaceful Jan 03, 2008, 12:07am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
Back to the topic. Here's another point I realized about the definition of "cheap". Sometimes, you can Not compare "cheapness" of computer parts just by comparing prices.

For example: "ASUS Beige 52X CD-ROM E-IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM Drive - $8.99" vs. "PHILIPS Black 20X DVD Burner - $23.99"

No doubt $8.99 is remarkable price. But remember 52 x CD-ROM is very very old, been around for years, almost no one buys them anymore. But a 20x DVD burner is waaay ahead of that in technology, and still just a bit more than 20 bucks.

Another example: "Western Digital Caviar SE WD400JD 40GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM...$39.99" vs. "Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $49.99"

You get 4 times as much storage and a faster SATA standard for only a fraction more in cost. Which one do you think is "Cheap"? Ask yourself.

If you just comparing the numeric value of the price, than of course whatever lower is cheaper. But if you also consider the value of the part, in terms of performance & newer technology, (or for HDDs/Memory amount of storage per dollar), then it's a completely different picture.

The trend of computer part prices is like this: it starts very high when it comes out, then starts dropping, eventually reaches the lowest point, but then due to low in supply, it rises again, and finally the product will disappear from the market. If you want the freshly out technology, then you pay the penalty of high cost. If you wait for the price to drop, then by the time you're getting it, perhaps something twice as good is coming out. It is always a game of trade-offs.

We should have a "contest" for getting the most technology using the fewest dollars. Then it's more fun! ;) Just my 2 cents, though.

BoT Jan 03, 2008, 02:11pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
would actually be nice to build some of those machines.
once build we could test with an array of benchmarks and set a standard of what these
machines would have to pass or surpass in order to be considered "ideally functional"

at the end those machines could be donated to the forums folding team or could be
given away to lottery price winners, etc

just a thought

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Scumbag Blues Jan 03, 2008, 08:09pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Challenge: Build the cheapest computer!
bot said:
would actually be nice to build some of those machines.
once build we could test with an array of benchmarks and set a standard of what these
machines would have to pass or surpass in order to be considered "ideally functional"

at the end those machines could be donated to the forums folding team or could be
given away to lottery price winners, etc

just a thought


I like that idea. And since this is the "cheapest" computer challenge, it's a feasible idea as well.

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B Jan 04, 2008, 11:38am EST Report Abuse
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