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Michael A. Jan 04, 2008, 05:36am EST Report Abuse
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7171201.stm

It's a shame, this is a big blow to this project which was one of the few I've seen recently with good intentions.


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Chris McGee Jan 04, 2008, 06:28am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: No Laptops for Children
I read somewhere that OLPC is also getting sued by a Nigerian company for $20 million over the keyboard design. Good idea and a noble intent, just a shame about all the a-holes in the world.

leastcmplicated Jan 04, 2008, 09:36am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: No Laptops for Children
this is truly sad. Why would intel agree to partner in this program if they had their own in the works... it makes no sense. And is there an article as to why they decided not to use AMD like in the first stages?

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B Jan 04, 2008, 10:37am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: No Laptops for Children
Hopefully AMD can fill in the gap.

Hans Moleman Jan 04, 2008, 10:52am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: No Laptops for Children
It's pretty simple. Intel saw this as an opportunity to make a little extra cash and improve their reputation by partnering with a non-profit organization. OLPC wanted Intel to be exclusive with them and not make processors for competing laptops. Intel certainly isn't making significant money from this partnership so there was no way they would cancel other contracts. Canceling production on their own low-cost laptop would have been ridiculous from a business perspective so the partnership ended.

AMD made the chips for the original laptops made by OLPC. I see no reason why they wouldn't renew their partnership now. I'm even a little surprised that VIA hasn't been approached. Their processors suck ass, but they are known for having low power consumption which is important for these laptops.

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john albrich Jan 04, 2008, 11:45am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: No Laptops for Children
leastcmplicated said:
this is truly sad. Why would intel agree to partner in this program if they had their own in the works... it makes no sense....


Intel spokesman Chuck Molly said it had taken the decision to resign from the OLPC board and end its involvement because the (OLPC) organisation had asked it to stop backing rival low-cost laptops


I have to put this problem on OLPC's leadership. This is a potentially very lucrative market and I'm sure that from the beginning the board and its supporters knew just how much attention and competition such a program could kick-start.

To tell Intel it can't compete in a world-wide market is absurd. It would effectively mean that countries that didn't agree to OLPC terms and controls wouldn't be able to obtain cheap computers for their people. That's a major and undesirable consequence.

This demonstrates that OLPC wants a monopoly. It strongly suggests that Negroponte and others had other than philanthropic motivation to develop the OLPC program....like making money from direct participation, and from information as contacts mature.

Some have believed this to be the case ever since Negroponte started promoting it.

Others have suggested that OLPC also has geo-political control motives that would be made much easier to execute in a monopoly/exclusive arrangement.

For example, the BitFrost "anti-theft" controls the program intends to place on every laptop enable the potential for abusing privacy and freedom-of-speech by governments around the world.

Beavis Khan Jan 04, 2008, 11:55am EST Report Abuse
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john albrich said:
It strongly suggests that Negroponte and others had other than philanthropic motivation to develop the OLPC program....like making money from direct participation, and from information as contacts mature.

Some have believed this to be the case ever since Negroponte started promoting it.


It's always hard to unravel the truth in situations like this, but lately it does smell more and more like Negroponte is the jackass here...

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leastcmplicated Jan 04, 2008, 02:34pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: No Laptops for Children
yea john I read the article... what i was saying is why would you agree to help your competition in the first place. I think it was wrong to ask them to stop "backing their rivals" but still. Can anyone find why they dropped AMD in the first place?

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john albrich Jan 04, 2008, 03:28pm EST Report Abuse
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leastcmplicated said:
yea john I read the article... what i was saying is why would you agree to help your competition in the first place....


I understood, I wasn't answering your question, I was just using it as a bridge to why Intel decided to leave the program.

But, addressing your question, I think it's the same reason others do this type of thing. They get:

free publicity/technology showcasing

free "good" publicity

free testing in expanded environment

free trips to "exotic" countries for some personnel (being paid for by someone else, means they don't have to be expensed)

faster market penetration/presence in new geographies (I'm sure there's probably some "Intel Inside" kind of stuff going on, and that means people and politicos who have never heard of Intel before will know about it when Intel comes back in with its own competing computer. People will often go with a brand-name they recognize even if it costs more)

free access to political, business, and celebrity figures they might otherwise have to spend money to get a meeting (contributions, junkets, etc)

probable tax credits

possible enhanced or accelerated tax write-offs or write-off items at a different tax rate

converting "capital" costs to 100% deductible expense costs (because some hardware, even though it is a shipped product can be still considered in development/test, and is "donated" to the programs/organizations and can get an immediate deduction rather than having to write-off a percentage over a period of X years)

and so on.

I'm sure their attorneys and accountants can come up with all sorts of benefits.

FordGT90Concept Jan 04, 2008, 04:11pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: No Laptops for Children
It's more of a blow to Intel than anyone else. If AMD decides not to supply processors (which they can't afford to now), I'm sure VIA, TI, or IBM would step up to the plate. This is probably nothing more than a disappointment.

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