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TamTheBam Jan 04, 2008, 06:02pm EST Report Abuse
i just flashed my bios with asus update and i've now lost the bios! I used the asus update, and flashed from desktop (i downloaded the newest rom frm the asus download page for commando). Before i go any further, i have downloaded the correct bios, i used the 'flash frm file', etc, etc so please all the obvious problems are ruled out. I am am experienced user with all this. Problem is, an error cropped up during the flash. 3 status bars shud reach 100%. Only 2 of them got 2 this stage - this's wen the error appeared. I can't remember what the error was 2b honest. I closed the update app, and restarted again, but this time the error was 'NO BIOS FOUND'. The OS was still fully operational at this stage. I then went 4 reboot, and now no post beep. Nothing. I tried resetting cmos with the jumper and nothing. All power, but jus no reboot. Looks like i'm gonna have 2 send back mobo 2 get fixed. Is there anything or suggestions, advice or help before doing this RMA?


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TamTheBam Jan 04, 2008, 06:16pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: nitemare situation!
also i'd jus like 2 say that i'm using my phone at this time for internet access and that sux! Also i'd like 2 say something else. ASUS have always been a problem for bios flashing. If using their software, it shud be relatively easy 2 flash. Also my bios was set back 2 factory settings before the attempted bios flash.

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CrAsHnBuRnXp Jan 04, 2008, 06:56pm EST Report Abuse
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Thats unfortunate Jase, Im sorry to hear it.

That is ASUS for ya. One reason I wont buy their crap.

Supreet Virdi Jan 04, 2008, 07:14pm EST Report Abuse
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Download BIOS file again, save it on to a USB drive, and use EZ Flash this time within BIOS.

Chris McNally Jan 04, 2008, 08:00pm EST Report Abuse
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Yup - always a bit queasy about using a windows based Bios flash program. Let us know how you get on with Supreet's suggestion.

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BoT Jan 04, 2008, 08:02pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: nitemare situation!
you can either use usb or diskette with the ez flash. should work.
you don't have to send your board in to get fixed or rma it, you can call them or send
them an email and they will send you a new bios chip for free. you only have to pay
shipping. not so bad for asus support.

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TamTheBam Jan 05, 2008, 05:35am EST Report Abuse
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thanks guys for all the advice. I can't do the EZ flash or use the usb because there's no post beep. There's no boot. There's power goin thru, but no post beep so i can't get into bios. The motherboard's completely dead.

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john albrich Jan 05, 2008, 08:20am EST Report Abuse
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If ASUS will provide a new BIOS chip for cost of S&H only, that is a great level of support. Go for it.

Of course, if their authorized software is going to cause the problem, you'd hope they'd cover the recovery.

I wonder if you can ask for and get the latest level?


Unless you've got a board that has a hardware switch/jumper to re-load a hard-wired copy of BIOS from a backup ROM, I think you're stuck with either replacing the BIOS chip or asking ASUS to fix it. (unless you know someone with chip-level copying and flashing equipment)

But, from what you describe you may have another mobo problem coincidently on top of this that uncovered by this procedure/software. Hope not.

Dublin_Gunner Jan 05, 2008, 08:46am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: nitemare situation!
Well there you go for being lazy and using a windows flash tool :P - NEVER recommended

You will need a new BIOS chip as your current one is now corrupt.

Why did you need a new BIOS anyway, were there any new features you needed?

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TamTheBam Jan 05, 2008, 10:15am EST Report Abuse
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i've done an rma with overclockers. So we'll see wot happens. I have an ASUS P5W Deluxe which i've now fitted. But i'm gettin a CPU LOAD ERROR. I'm wondering if this due 2 the fact that this board is not compatible with QUAD Cores? Can any1 update me on this, and wot this error actually means? I've not formatted since it's the same chipset. It does boot 2 desktop, but my cpu temps are in late 50's which's is wrong cos i've liquid cooling plus it's at stock settings. The commando was giving me 20's temps for all my cores. So something not right there. Also, due 2 the size of case i have, and since the P5W is laid out differently, the floppy cable is too short for fitting. One thing after another eh!

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john albrich Jan 05, 2008, 11:44am EST Report Abuse
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DublinGunner said:
Well there you go for being lazy and using a windows flash tool :P - NEVER recommended...


I never understood why this is such a pervasive problem in the industry. I can think of at least 2 very simple and cheap mobo circuits off the top of my head that would be 100% happy flashing the BIOS in cooperation with a Windows application, and just as reliable as flashing from a special boot diskette/CD.

The only reason they don't make it reliable is apparently because they don't want to make it reliable (easy)

TamTheBam Jan 05, 2008, 02:44pm EST Report Abuse
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I'm back up and running with the ASUS P5W Deluxe, and had to put back in
my core duo cos it wasn't liking the Quad. I'd have to flash the bios for it to
utilise the quad, and well THAT'S SOMIN I'M NOT WANTING TO DO haha!
The temps with this motherboard is outrageous! I'll not be gaming or anything
until i got my new replacement board, and my quad back in.

Thanks for all the advice and help

Tam...

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Hans Moleman Jan 05, 2008, 02:58pm EST Report Abuse
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Is it just me, or are these problems especially common on Asus boards? I've flashed BIOS on MSI, Abit, DFI, and Gigabyte boards and never had a problem. I've only flashed in Windows once and that was with the Abit flash utility. It all went smoothly. The Gigabyte board I used for a friend's build even had a backup BIOS to restore from if flashing ever went wrong.

I did have one occasiona where it didn't work. I was unable to flash the BIOS on my Gateway laptop and the Windows utility is the only way to do it. It didn't cause any problems, the utility just wouldn't flash.

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jan 05, 2008, 03:04pm EST Report Abuse
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http://www.bios-repair.co.uk/

state that biosmedic sent ya to that link above

http://www.biosmedic.com/

before i flash a chip i always have a spare on hand incase of the above stated, i go thru them for a preprogrammed chip, the will put any bios file that can fit the chips, but remember there are different voltages used nowadays

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TamTheBam Jan 05, 2008, 04:35pm EST Report Abuse
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I just realised why my CPU temps were so damn high!
I never plugged the WATER PUMP TERMINAL ON!!!

Even ASUS update iss**t. It either can't find the latest file for bios, or it won't
download it or it won't run it properly like what happend to me!

I usually use the EZ in Bios, but i wanted to see if the update would save me all the
hassle. The damn sofware should work anyways, it's not the user that's the liability,
it's ASUS themselves for:

A: Providing a crap service.
B: Crap App software
C: God awful website

The P5W Deluxe that i just installed, is brandnew, I've had it for a while now.
It won't accept my quad, purely for the fact that the board was out before quads
came out. I could flash the bios with an update, but erm NO THANKS! Lol

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Dublin_Gunner Jan 05, 2008, 04:48pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: nitemare situation!
john albrich said:
DublinGunner said:
Well there you go for being lazy and using a windows flash tool :P - NEVER recommended...


I never understood why this is such a pervasive problem in the industry. I can think of at least 2 very simple and cheap mobo circuits off the top of my head that would be 100% happy flashing the BIOS in cooperation with a Windows application, and just as reliable as flashing from a special boot diskette/CD.

The only reason they don't make it reliable is apparently because they don't want to make it reliable (easy)



Precisely the reasson why its never recommended, unfortunately.

However, I've flashed many Gigabyte boards through Windows without so much as a wrong beep, they seem to have gotten it right.


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