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FingerMeElmo87 Jan 22, 2008, 06:24pm EST Report Abuse
here are 2 seperate reviews of the same card (one has a different design on the heatsink but its safe to say its probably stock) from 2 seperate site and both proclaim this thing to be a monster;

FPSLabs
http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review

Inside Hardware
http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Graphics-cards/ATI-Radeon-HD-3...-1-GB.html

i read both and i must say that im glad AMD/ATI can still pull something like this out of there a$$ and smack nVidia once again. this cards looks amazing and with it being Crossfire X compatible, AMD might have the a pretty stong lead for quite some time (can't wait to see those benchmarks). whos like 8 GPUs in one system? Finger does


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Supreet Virdi Jan 22, 2008, 07:12pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
Its real competitor would be NVIDIA 9800GX2, seems like its gonna hold up against it very well. Very good performance gains in number of games, it would do even better with third-fourth delivery of drivers.

I want it YAY! :D

mothow Jan 22, 2008, 07:30pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
Looks like a nice card but my 8800GTS 512mb gets about the same scores and FPS in most games already

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vulcan raven Jan 22, 2008, 07:33pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
not sure what all the fuss is about. still going to be hampered by very nature of the crossfire twin GPU technology, so ati have glued two GPU's together, to make people believe thay have actually caught up with more than a year old nvidia architecture. which they havent.

its no faster than the top three single nvidia cards in half of games that dont work properly with crossfire/SLI, and in the games that do its not really faster than 8800GT SLI. so you can do quad GPU. whupty, nvidia's 9800 will probably be faster, and besides, who here plans on buying two of them? no one. the old GX2's werent all that great, never caught on, i doubt that the newer dual GPU cards will either.

its also a serious mistake to compare this to an ultra, because the G92 effectively killed the old G80 core in sales anyway. there is no real market for ultras. overclocked GTS 512's as we know are generally faster than the GTX. people dont pay 400 plus pounds for an ultra anymore, when they can have 95 percent of the performance for 50 percent of the price or they can get two GTS 512 for the same money. ATI are attempting to steal a market that ceased existence as soon as the G92 core launched. talk about niche market.

meh. :/

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Scumbag Blues Jan 22, 2008, 07:40pm EST Report Abuse
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Although many people will brush this off as an attempt to re-create what nVidia did with the 7950GX2 over a year ago, I think this has potential. We already know that HD3870s in Crossfire can easily handle a single 8800GTX. However, the biggest positive here is the fact that the HD3870 X2 is selling at a price point far more desirable than a single 8800GTX or 8800 Ultra. That in conjunction with it's fairly stellar performance is very reminiscent of the 8800GT launch. nVidia will have to push the 9800GX2 out of the door quickly and/or cut prices on the 8800GTX and above to compete. Remember, last time AMD/ATi had a counter for the 8800GT in the form of the HD3850 and HD3870. This time, nVidia better be ready to counter.

Finally, AMD/ATi has put out some very competitive products and it will only benefit us consumers.

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FingerMeElmo87 Jan 22, 2008, 10:38pm EST Report Abuse
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i think on of the things i like most about this card is the fact that it appears as one card vs 2 cards. therefore you dont have to worry about a game supporting or not supporting multi-gpu technologies. not only that but i can on fathom how hard this card will rock in an actual crossfire setup or a quadfire implementation. i think this card has great potential at around $450

ps - to bad AMD blew it on phenom though

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ian elliott Jan 24, 2008, 03:57pm EST Report Abuse
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I think you are missing the point Vulcan. If 2 horses cost $400 and can pull my cart faster than your one horse costing $600 then ATI is on to a winner. Its like a car with more cylinders. Now which is the better?

Besides all that this is just one card whereas you are talking about 3X8800 in SLI. This card is a breakthrough as can be seen by the Call of Juarez bench.

Here is some more benchmarks.
http://tinyurl.com/2v9xzn

SombaSan Jan 26, 2008, 11:45pm EST Report Abuse
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ATi is King Again :)

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ian elliott Jan 27, 2008, 01:04pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
Look at these crossfire 3870x2. See what 2 of these beasts can do.

http://www.techpowerup.com/?50695

Crysis very high settings 20.7FPS :blush:

Looks like I won't be playing Crysis for a few years yet.

Scumbag Blues Jan 27, 2008, 02:02pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
That doesn't look right but I guess that's due to the non-existant drivers for that kind of Crossfire setup. My single 8800GT can put out at least a 24 FPS on average with 10x7 resolution and all very high settings.

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vulcan raven Jan 27, 2008, 06:04pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
ian elliott said:
I think you are missing the point Vulcan. If 2 horses cost $400 and can pull my cart faster than your one horse costing $600 then ATI is on to a winner. Its like a car with more cylinders. Now which is the better?

Besides all that this is just one card whereas you are talking about 3X8800 in SLI. This card is a breakthrough as can be seen by the Call of Juarez bench.


thats exactly where you are missing the point. no one is buying 600 dollar ultras anymore, they are buying G92's. its silly comparing this to an ultra, because people would rather buy two GT or GTS than one ultra, and a pair of them would be faster than the 3870 X2 for sure.

what ATI have here is something that isnt particularly faster than normal SLI/crossfire, probably is going to be slower than its direct nvidia competition, and most importantly, most importantly, hardly anyone is going to buy. they wont. the market is miniscule for cards like these.

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FordGT90Concept Jan 27, 2008, 06:08pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
Yup. Hence why it's taking over a year (7950 GX2) to work up enough nerve to release another dual GPU card (9800 GX2). Bragging rights (mostly towards excessive power consumption) is about all these cards are worth.

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vulcan raven Jan 27, 2008, 06:23pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
you only have to glance at the benches to see my point. its faster than 8800GT sli.......only in games that are known to favour ati cards anyway. and in most else, the nvidia SLI setup is faster. in the games that dont use dual GPU's very well, then we see the card isnt faster than the single nvidia cards there either! its advantage is in a seriously slim set of circumstances. so its faster than a single ultra, so? lol so is 8800GT sli, all this card is: crossfire on a card. thats it. its not some stunning innovation, i dont see the fuss.

the only real advantage this card brings is the ability to have quad GPU, which caters for the tiniest ever market, same as tri sli. its a minute percentile of the market, that got narrower when the the G92 core appeared and was cheaper to grab a pair of them than an ultra.i think it will be very short lived, same as nvidia's 9800 GX2, which is merely a knee jerk response to this. six months, and nvidia's real next generation architecture will be here, and proceed to knock both cards into a cocked hat singlehandedly.

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TamTheBam Jan 27, 2008, 06:30pm EST Report Abuse
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The 9800GTX isn't raising my eyebrows. I'm waiting til the summer at least for another
card. The new ATi card does look impressive tho

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FordGT90Concept Jan 27, 2008, 06:33pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1 GB!!! this thing is a BEAST!!!
The most impressive thing about the 3870X2 is that they got all that crap to fit on a single PCB. All the NVIDIA dual GPU cards utilize two piggybacked PCBs. It makes me wonder how many layers thick it is though with 8800GTs being 4-6 layers.

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TamTheBam Jan 27, 2008, 06:37pm EST Report Abuse
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That's a f**kin beast that card!

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vulcan raven Jan 27, 2008, 06:38pm EST Report Abuse
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Tam-the-Bam said:

The 9800GTX isn't raising my eyebrows. I'm waiting til the summer at least for another
card. The new ATi card does look impressive tho


the 9800 series is just a tweaked die shrink again, its not new architecture. im talking new technology, not further refinement of the age old G80 now.

the key here is, is the 3870 X2 much faster than normal crossfire 3870? my bet is that it probably isnt. you can get two normal 3870's in crossfire here, for less than the price of a single 3870 X2. you can have SLI 8800GT for the price of 3870 X2. so really, what you are paying for is the right to try quad GPU with two 3870 X2's. how niche is that?

its the exact same situation of the silly GX2 boards, the 7800 and 7950, where one 78/79 GX2 wasnt really faster than SLI 7800/7900GT but also the GX2 ended up being more expensive than two GT's!! go figure. quad GPU is the only real reason for these to exist.

put into that perspective, the card is kinda unimpressive.

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TamTheBam Jan 27, 2008, 06:45pm EST Report Abuse
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Even so, there's no way I'm rushing out for the next G card from Nvid like i usually do.
I'm spreading my upgrades out over a year. And the 9800 will prob give me what another
10-15fps on crysis. Nah, stuff that. I'm waiting at least til summer

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vulcan raven Jan 27, 2008, 07:21pm EST Report Abuse
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Tam-the-Bam said:

Even so, there's no way I'm rushing out for the next G card from Nvid like i usually do.
I'm spreading my upgrades out over a year. And the 9800 will prob give me what another
10-15fps on crysis. Nah, stuff that. I'm waiting at least til summer


i doubt i will change anything until nehalem later this year now. quads still mostly unproven in gaming as crysis has ably demonstrated, and gaming is what i do. crysis is a GPU hog, and the GPU technology just isnt currently around to improve the crysis experience. we need the next generation of CPU and GPU's now seeing as though three ultras cant even run crysis in DX10 maxed out at a nice resolution.

see what larabee brings to the party

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ti t Jan 27, 2008, 08:53pm EST Report Abuse
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You seem to have alot of blind faith in nvidia, you say 8800gt sli is probably faster than 3870 crossfire. You say probably because you dont know, you seem to meerly assume nvidia is always better. Infact a single 8800GT IS faster than a single 3870, but crossfire 3870 is significantly faster than 8800GT sli and infact crossfire 3850 is onpar with 8800gt SLI. This 3870x2 card is not just a one off like you claim, its a first, as the next gen of ati cards, the 4000 series is entirely dual core with upto 4 or 8 cores on a board for high end cards. Because of this, unlike previous dual core cards this one will be properly supported by drivers and games as its the way of all new ati cards.

ian elliott Jan 27, 2008, 09:59pm EST Report Abuse
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vulcan raven said:

thats exactly where you are missing the point. no one is buying 600 dollar ultras anymore, they are buying G92's. its silly comparing this to an ultra, because people would rather buy two GT or GTS than one ultra, and a pair of them would be faster than the 3870 X2 for sure.

No I think you are missing the point again.2x8800GTS will cost more than a 3870x2.

And your second point that they would be faster than 3870x2 .Only in games where it is known to favours Nvidia :_)

vulcan raven said:

you only have to glance at the benches to see my point. its faster than 8800GT sli.. only in games that are known to favour ati cards anyway

That is correct but do you know that in those games where it favours the Nvidia. ATI can push out playable frame rates (Crysis at max aside, that owns all cards until we see decent drivers for this dual GPU card). Where as those games that favour ATI (Call of Juarez) Nvidia 8800GT SLI can't push out playable frame rate at ANY resolution. Where as ATI can push out playable frame rate right up to 1920x1200.




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