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mothow Dec 22, 2009, 08:24am EST Report Abuse
Im wanting to try the OCZ 30gb Vertex SSD's but i just cant see spending $259(will be a christmas present from my Fiance) on less than 60gb's once i raid them.I had ordered them and pulled the trigger but yesterday i cancled the order.What would you do?Im thinking ill just get me a copule a of 80gb VR's and short stroking them.(This will just be for OS and a few other ap's).They wont compare to the SSD's but ill save $100.I can get two of these for less than $160 shipped.Or should i just stick to my two 500gb Seagate's and save the cash


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kOrny Dec 22, 2009, 10:50am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SSD or not to SSD
I'd wait. Its just not worth it yet.

Adam Kolak Dec 22, 2009, 11:11am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SSD or not to SSD
I would wait too, give it just a few more years and I would expect SSDs to be very affordable and considerably faster. It is just a matter of time before every laptop comes with one, and in desktops they will replace all but the most high capacity storage drives. However, with current prices it seems like a huge waste of money.

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mothow Dec 22, 2009, 11:31am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SSD or not to SSD
Yeah i agree.I really want to try them but its just not that big a deal.My system already boots pretty fast .I guess ill savethe money for a GT3xx when released

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<a class= Dec 22, 2009, 12:53pm EST Report Abuse
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I was gonna get a SSD but then I decided against it. It's not worth it until they start selling 200gig SATA 3 drives for sub 200$ prices and that can run for longer than 3 years without burning out.

Not worth it until then.

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Plug & Play Dec 22, 2009, 01:28pm EST Report Abuse
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GET THEM YOU GOD DAM PU.S.SY.....

i MEAN YOU MAKE A THREAD IT GOES TO 20 PAGES AND THEN YOU END UP BUYING THEM WTF!!!!!

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Plug & Play Dec 22, 2009, 01:31pm EST Report Abuse
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lol....Only joking Tom.

There are deffo not worth it...if they were we would both have them already.....this is a classic case of wants vs needs....I know you want them hell I do too, but you dont need them. The benefit is not good enough.

Dont be so careless with your money.....:blush: you will be after a DX11 next Jeeeez Some people!

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mothow Dec 22, 2009, 01:33pm EST Report Abuse
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Yeah i wantz DX-11.If the Fermi doesnt get here soon im gonna have to grab a 5870...lol

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<a class= Dec 22, 2009, 02:00pm EST Report Abuse
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Haha here is that "want vs need" case again.

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mothow Dec 22, 2009, 02:12pm EST Report Abuse
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Nope I need DX 11 seriously i need DX 11 its a matter of Life or Death!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Plug & Play Dec 22, 2009, 04:12pm EST Report Abuse
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Exactly Tom...I swear I am looking at everything now and saying "Hey, why cant my toothbrush be DX11 and totally work better!!!!!"

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mothow Dec 22, 2009, 04:24pm EST Report Abuse
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Plug & Play said:

Exactly Tom...I swear I am looking at everything now and saying "Hey, why cant my toothbrush be DX11 and totally work better!!!!!"


GT380 DX 11 capable tooth brush now im Drooling...lol:cool:

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Joshua Mitchell Jan 05, 2010, 01:39am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SSD or not to SSD
I agree that the SSD option does not offer as much bang per dollar as a traditional harddrive. However, I own the harddrive you are considering buying, the OCZ Vertex 30gb and I use it as my boot drive and I run a few other programs that I want to be as responsive as possible and I am well pleased with that decision.

In terms of storage per dollar, it may not offer much, but the notable increases in boot time and the responsiveness and the decreased load times of the other programs more than make up for it IMO. I only have 1 of these drives, so of course RAID is not an option, but the single drive is fast enough for me.

As for the sata 3 dilemma, I agree with that as well, but I am impatient so waiting is hard for me.I went through the same problem between buying a system now or waiting for the i9 and nvidia 300 series to come out, but wound up deciding that today's technology is good enough for my needs.

Meats_Of_Evil Jan 05, 2010, 02:10am EST Report Abuse
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Mothow said:
Yeah i agree.I really want to try them but its just not that big a deal.My system already boots pretty fast .I guess ill savethe money for a GT3xx when released



That's a bingo! Mothow it is your sole duty to get the GT3xx when it is released and inform us of its sheer splendor.

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G. G. Jan 05, 2010, 10:42am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SSD or not to SSD
Mot,

Hold off on the SSD for now (i know i know..... you got cash in your pocket and u need to burn it).....

today, the best of the best is the Intel X-25M G2 and then OCZ Vertex is very close next in line.

BUT...........


wait out for the next line of SSD that will be using the SandForce controller. After reading this review.... the controller will blow out current controllers being used today.

Basically what happens today is that each company i.e. Intel, OCZ, Patriot, whomever, buys these controllers and build/design/put together all the other stuff around it to make the whole SSD package. It's just that Intel is the best at doing this and OCZ is next in line.

But, with this new SandForce controller...... it is the nex gen in performance of SSD.

Take a read - http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3702

If you want all out performance in SSD..... wait for the SandForce controllers



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john albrich Jan 05, 2010, 11:21am EST Report Abuse
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G. G. said:
...If you want all out performance in SSD..... wait for the SandForce controllers


So.........um........

Intel outsources to Jedis on Tatooine now?

G. G. Jan 05, 2010, 02:34pm EST Report Abuse
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BoT Jan 05, 2010, 03:29pm EST Report Abuse
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mothow, i'd rather get the intel x-25m instead of two vertex drives.
there is no trim for raid'd drives and raid does not scale as well for ssd's as it does for mechanical drives.

the sandforce is a new gen controller which will outperform the indilinx and intel controller in some areas but has short comings in others, it does not perform well at all with compressed data like .zip files etc

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john albrich Jan 05, 2010, 06:37pm EST Report Abuse
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BoT said:
...the sandforce...does not perform well at all with compressed data like .zip files etc


I wonder how Sandforce would fare with the SSD used AS an encrypted and/or compressed system disk (e.g. under TrueCrypt).

LEntless Jan 05, 2010, 06:59pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SSD or not to SSD
Not worth it. As P&P said- there are wants, and then there are needs. You don't need a SSD, neither do I. I need a 12 pack.

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Jan 06, 2010, 01:28pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SSD or not to SSD
For Mothow, it might be worth it, seeing as how he upgrades hiss**t every third day. XD

For me though, I like to keep hardware for years, and I'm not convinced that whatever wear-leveling implemented in the drives is sufficient for a long life. Heck, as far as I know there isn't any, and it's just being left up to the filesystem to handle it.

The way I see it, if you've got the balls to run your system and keep all of your data on a RAID 0 array, then you're a shoe-in for an SSD.


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