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Plug & Play Apr 23, 2010, 06:47am EDT Report Abuse

Okay, I am currently gaming on a fantastic BenQ 24" TFT and no issues at all, I want to get a bigger screen so the only REAL options are 27" or 30" otherwise it would not be considered an upgrade.

My current options to buy are both Dells...the U2711 (27") and the 3008WFP (30") I have a good GPU (5970) so it will power both no probs.....does anyone currently GAME with either of these units, or know anyone who does. It would be mostly GAMING and photo editing on the screens no movie playback or that.

Are there any other screen just as good....The 30" TFT from Dell is just an absolute UBER TFT never seen a bad review but its pricey but you get what you pay for, I will be keeping my 24" TFT for other gaming apps open such as steam and teamspeak aswell as MSI afterburner n that.

Any ideas?
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Supreet Virdi Apr 23, 2010, 07:24am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
I think only 30" should be a valid option. If I were you I wouldn't even consider U2711, it uses H-IPS Panel alignment of Pixels, I would definitely pick 3008W due to S-IPS Panel. S-PVA Panels are also good, but I don't know any 30" Monitor equipped with it, it's widely used by Sony and Samsung, generally it has better black depth.

Currently, I would only consider 3008W or Apple Cinema HD

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9179LL/A
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6470175-1.html

To be very honest, I would rather wait. Fully LED monitors are coming very soon. Samsung is coming up with its full LED monitor line-up.

~Vel Apr 23, 2010, 09:48am EDT Report Abuse
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These guys do a pretty good job at keeping this list up to date.

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php

Michael C Apr 23, 2010, 10:05am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
The problems of going for a monitor that is 27-30" that has a resolution of 2560x1600 or similar are:

1) Usually $1000+
2) Resolution is so high that you will NEED to have the latest of the latest graphic card(or cards) to play games decently.

I went with my 28" monitor with a res of 1920x1200 and I don't think you really need more than that. If I were going for a new monitor now I'd go for this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682423608...-_-Product

Or mine:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254043

Though, mine does have a little too much back-light bleeding, but at this point in time I can hardly tell it's there now because you barely see it.

Beavis Khan Apr 23, 2010, 10:33am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
The Anandtech LCD thread is still, IMHO, the best single place to get monitor info:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=39226

Agreed with Michael C on the downsides of a high resolution panel - 2560x1600 is nearly double the pixels of a 1920x1200 panel, so you'd better plan your gaming accordingly.

The other thing to realize is that there is an incredible difference in dot pitch between a 30" @ 2560x1600 and, say, a 27" @ 1920x1200. Until we get true resolution independent window managers, the 30" ends up with everything too small for my liking and my preferred viewing distance. I've got a 25.5" 1920x1200 panel and a 22" 1680x1050, and the dot pitch on these is much more to my personal preference.

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Supreet Virdi Apr 23, 2010, 10:38am EDT Report Abuse
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Beavis Khan said:

The other thing to realize is that there is an incredible difference in dot pitch between a 30" @ 2560x1600 and, say, a 27" @ 1920x1200. Until we get true resolution independent window managers, the 30" ends up with everything too small for my liking and my preferred viewing distance. I've got a 25.5" 1920x1200 panel and a 22" 1680x1050, and the dot pitch on these is much more to my personal preference.


Good point, to an extent I agree, however those monitors I mentioned have very good up-scaling. You wouldn't notice much difference, had it been entry level monitors, like from the old days, those 20"-22", I would've personally said no to it.

Plug & Play Apr 23, 2010, 03:54pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
Thanx for the advice....but I am only gonna get a new screen with a better res higher res then my current 1920x1200.

The reason why I posted the two Dell monitors is that the reviews for both are really really good. As for my GPU well thats not a problem, if my 5970 cant power it then the game aint worth playing.

I think the Dell 30" is the one I will get.....Just need to research a bit more.

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Michael C Apr 23, 2010, 04:01pm EDT Report Abuse
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From what I've seen even the 5970 can't really dish out enough fps in most games at that resolution but it does produce the most FPS by far in that resolution compared to other cards(2gb ram). That resolution would be some sick though. You're really going to pay $1000-1500 for a computer monitor? Insane.

Beavis Khan Apr 23, 2010, 04:33pm EDT Report Abuse
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Michael C said:
You're really going to pay $1000-1500 for a computer monitor? Insane.


Eh, if you're willing to drop ~$700 on a video card, $1500 for a monitor is a positively great deal by comparison. The monitor will still kick ass in 3 years whereas the video card will probably get dusted by a $200 single card by then :P

If you're not in a hurry, though, I think Supreet is right - wait for the LED backlights, that'll make the monitor last even longer.

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Michael C Apr 23, 2010, 04:35pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
Another thing to consider - 3D Gaming. You need a 120hz monitor at least in order to be able to use 3D gaming and I'm quite sure from what I see on those ones you mentioned, they can only do 60-75hz.

Apr 23, 2010, 04:53pm EDT Report Abuse
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Mmmmm ... IPS.

G. G. Apr 23, 2010, 06:46pm EDT Report Abuse
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Pluggggggg............ this is your concious..... ..... buyyyy buyyyy.... the 30" monitor..... you know you need it..... buyyyyyyyy..... you cant wait any longer..... buyyyyyyyyy.... 30" errrrrrrr.... show your man hood...... show who is bosssss... buyyy buyyyyyy...... anything less than a 30" for your 5970 is junk........ buyyyyyy buyyyyyy..... buyyy nowwwwwwww......... you know you want it baby..... give me that 30" rrrrrr...... buyyyyy buyyyyyy




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Supreet Virdi Apr 24, 2010, 01:13am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
Don't forget Apple Cinema HD, you'll get best color reproduction if you go with it. But overall, I would suggest you to wait and then purchase Full LED Monitor.

Supreet Virdi Apr 24, 2010, 01:16am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
Also, you don't want "Edge" LED. For excellent gaming experience you need FULL LED, compared to nominal CCFL.

mothow Apr 24, 2010, 10:21am EDT Report Abuse
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I love the Dell 2709 and the U2711 .I might get one myself.I just dont the have room for a 30".And i agree with these guys about the resolution.Thats enough to make eeven a source game run likes**t with anything else but a Top end card. or SLI or CF

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Plug & Play Apr 24, 2010, 11:21am EDT Report Abuse
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Tom,

The U2711 is a great monitor...it really is. But I am getting the 30" Dell 3008WFP, having a top end GPU is not a problem. I always get one when I need one.

TBH the 24" TFT I have now was the single best investment I ever made so paying good money for a new TFT well worth it.

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Apr 24, 2010, 04:10pm EDT Report Abuse
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Suprizzle Virdizzle
Also, you don't want "Edge" LED. For excellent gaming experience you need FULL LED, compared to nominal CCFL.

Are there full grid LED-backlit monitors? Anything 24" in size wouldn't really need it. When you're talking large LED-backlit HDTVs ... then yeah.

RGB-LED would be a big improvement too. RGB-LED IPS displays are ... insane!

Michael C Apr 24, 2010, 07:01pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
What about 3D gaming Plug?

Supreet Virdi Apr 25, 2010, 12:18am EDT Report Abuse
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Virdizzle says: Yes George McFlhy, the are 30" monitors (Full LED) already available like Samsung XL30, people who are in video editing prefer it also. Though the main issue as of now is slow response time. That's why I asked Plug to wait for new line up of Samsung (or anyother) LED Monitors for improved response time.

Though 3008W or Apple Cinema HD should be the given preference if one has to purchase a monitor and do not want to wait Full LED.

Apr 25, 2010, 03:47am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: New Monitor Advice?
I've been using some HP 24" RGB-LED IPS monitors (HP DreamColor) on campus for programming, and all I can say is wow. For programming, obviously it's massive overkill and I require screen resolution more than I do color accuracy, but these monitors are very, very nice.

It costs around $2,000, so it's not a budget model!:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/382087-382087-64...48397.html

I wouldn't buy it for the computer work that I do, but if I was a professional video or photo editor (as opposed to just some guy who thinks hes a professional because he owns a Mac), I would certainly consider it.

Supreet Virdi Apr 25, 2010, 07:57am EDT Report Abuse
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Yep, LED TVs is the future, if they could somehow manage to fix response time quickly, gamers would absolutely love it, but another major factor would be the cost. I think it will take approximately couple of years for an average Joe to experience it.

Plug, I know you don't like me. You'd rather like to ignore my post/suggestions due to heated debate we had exchanged back in 2005. But an honest suggestion REALLY, just get an Apple Cinema HD. I hate Apple, but their Apple Cinema display (30" ONLY) is one of the best display currently available in regards to color reproduction and design.

And hey Athlon 3000+ Venice Rocks, San Diego SUCKS! :P


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