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Patrick McConnon May 28, 2010, 07:44am EDT Report Abuse


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Michael C May 28, 2010, 09:18am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Most motherboard audio is pretty decent overall, but doesn't compare to a soundcard. The only 'worthy' upgrade IMO would be to get some good headphones(64ohms) and a soundcard with a headphone amp.

Liquid Shadow May 28, 2010, 09:20am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Yeah I would say if you are not super critical about sound, then don't bother. With most computer speakers you can't tell the difference.



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Supreet Virdi May 28, 2010, 10:49am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
That's one terrible sound card onboard. I highly suggest you to get a good one. I would suggest you to get Asus Xonar D1, its cheaper than your budget and the difference would be gargantuan. Apart from sound quality, it will relieve some load from your CPU while gaming, hence there would be increase in FPS also.

Asus Xonar D1:
http://in.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=6p3ZFmkwzIKPTYLk&templete=2

By the way, may I know what speakers are you using?

Mike L. May 28, 2010, 11:24am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Supreet,

What would make you say that a Creative Soundblaster X-Fi sound card, as an integrated solution, is a 'terrible' one?

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Michael C May 28, 2010, 11:42am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Truth is, he doesn't know how it sounds and either does the OP of this thread. Wait and see how it sounds before deciding what to do - simply as that.

Mike L. May 28, 2010, 11:53am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Heh, that was precisely the point I was trying to get at.

In my personal opinion, I think the on-board sound cards included on motherboards nowadays are great. Why go "all out" on a sound card for a PC anyways? It's simply not worth it.

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Michael C May 28, 2010, 12:10pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Welllllll...

I can't agree with that entirely, but I do see how that would be the case for 90%+ of computer users. I paid $183 for the Auzentech Forte card and $130 for the Sennheiser 280 Pro headphones - so this path is not exactly cheap.

On the other hand, I consider myself a sound enthusiast. I love great sound and listen to quite a bit of music on my PC through headphones and sometimes through my Logitech Z-5300's. The Auzentech improved the overall sound quality and clarity to levels that you can hardly imagine and the 280 Pro's compliment it well. Games also sound great and it's just a totally different experience. I don't think I could go back to anything less.

May 28, 2010, 12:10pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Supreet Virdi (24355) said on May 28, 2010 at 07:49am PDT:
Apart from sound quality, it will relieve some load from your CPU while gaming, hence there would be increase in FPS also.

Good point, but a lot of PCI/PCIe soundcards use CPU decoding anyway, so that advantage would be moot. But assuming we're talking about "real" soundcards with hardware decoding, then yeah.

Bungle May 28, 2010, 12:14pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
In Windows Vista and later all sound devices are emulated on the CPU...

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kOrny May 28, 2010, 12:19pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Yeah onboard audio used to suck big time, but the motherboards these days come equipped with some decent sound chips. It all depends on the equipment you have that will be pumping out that sound.

If you will be using a PC speaker setup/headphones you will be more than fine.

If you are using a premium sound setup then you may want to consider some other audio interface options.

Supreet Virdi May 28, 2010, 01:01pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Mike L. said:
Supreet,

What would make you say that a Creative Soundblaster X-Fi sound card, as an integrated solution, is a 'terrible' one?


Creative Soundblaster X-Fi? Or is it VIA - VT1718S (Creative X-FI 30 day software trial included on driver DVD)?

Xonar D1 is complete value for money, these integrated Sound Card looks good on paper. I've 8 Chanel HD Audio (ADI AD1988) on board and yet I use Creative SB Live! 5.1 16-bit, just because of its sound quality, its not way near ADI AD1988, so called "HD" 24-bit.

Tremendous improvement over sound quality.

Supreet Virdi May 28, 2010, 01:03pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Just listen to Xonar D1 and any onboard sound card on any speakers. Let me know if I'm wrong, I'll just quit.

Michael C May 28, 2010, 01:12pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Of course the Xonar D1 would sound better, but it costs money.

Mike L. May 28, 2010, 04:32pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Supreet Virdi said:

Creative Soundblaster X-Fi? Or is it VIA - VT1718S (Creative X-FI 30 day software trial included on driver DVD)?


Hi Supreet,

Duly noted. However, I do not recall seeing anything about a trial... Are we looking at the same website? Lol.

I love my sound just as much as the next audiophile but, I can't bring myself into spending that kind of money on a computer - not anymore that is. Everyone has their uses, right?

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mothow May 28, 2010, 06:49pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
I think the sound from onboard audio is fine.Unles your using top of the line speakers or headphones you wont notice much of a differnce.

I have an X-FI Titanium (PCI-E) and with my Logitech Z-4's(2.1)speakers i can hardly tell if im using my sound card or on board audio when i switched them for testing purpose's.Yeah the soundcard is better but not enough so that i would spend the extra money if i didnt already have one.I just like having a really cool sig hence my GTX470s etc..lol

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<a class= May 29, 2010, 12:44am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
supreet you got a Xonar? I wanna ask people who go it if it's any good compared to auzentech ones...

Mothow, thats because your speakers arent good enough the tell the difference AND the fact that you probably werent playing 24bit/192/96 khz content. Wtf people, stop thinking if you listen to your 320kbps mp3's, you will be able to tell the difference between 108db SNR and 118. YOU WONT.

Go get some blu rays with 7.1 24/192 and a better set of speakers and then hear the difference.

With my crappy z-5500's I can barely hear the difference playing mp3's on the forte vs onboard. The best way is to get 24bit/96khz recordings then the difference is unbelievable.

And if I hook up my Yamaha set from the home theater and I am no longer capped by the cheap speaker quality, then the sound quality forte is able to produce just blows everything else away...

....well....besides that yamaha receiver hehe...but thats not from the PC world..

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Patrick McConnon May 29, 2010, 10:45am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
Lol woah, lot of replies to this post lol;

Yeah basically i was looking at the Xonar D5.1 or something web-systems.co.uk sell it but it features 7.1 surround but the headset i use is only a standard 3.5mm jack and is 5.1 im just wondering how that would work and the sound would be correct. Moreover would the onboard sound card still allow me to have 5.1 with my headset

My headset is a Plantronics Gamecom headset

mothow May 29, 2010, 07:16pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
sovietdoc said:
supreet you got a Xonar? I wanna ask people who go it if it's any good compared to auzentech ones...

Mothow, thats because your speakers arent good enough the tell the difference AND the fact that you probably werent playing 24bit/192/96 khz content. Wtf people, stop thinking if you listen to your 320kbps mp3's, you will be able to tell the difference between 108db SNR and 118. YOU WONT.

Go get some blu rays with 7.1 24/192 and a better set of speakers and then hear the difference.

With my crappy z-5500's I can barely hear the difference playing mp3's on the forte vs onboard. The best way is to get 24bit/96khz recordings then the difference is unbelievable.

And if I hook up my Yamaha set from the home theater and I am no longer capped by the cheap speaker quality, then the sound quality forte is able to produce just blows everything else away...

....well....besides that yamaha receiver hehe...but thats not from the PC world..



Thats why i said top of the line.No way Z-4's are top of the line..lol

(frist line in my post)
I think the sound from onboard audio is fine.Unless your using top of the line speakers or headphones you wont notice much of a differnce.

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<a class= May 29, 2010, 10:06pm EDT Report Abuse
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blah. I can't read :cool:

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Patrick McConnon May 30, 2010, 11:42am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Use onboard sound or buy a Sound Card
The main purpose of having "decent sound" is so that i can hear correctly in a game not necessarily ZOMGTHATSAMAING THE BASS IS PERFECTO but so the surround sound is correct. My point being that if someone if in front of me and to th eleft i can hear them correctly :D:D:D


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