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  Young Kids F**ked Up England?! WTF is going on?? 
 
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Dr. Peaceful Aug 10, 2011, 12:03pm EDT Report Abuse
Young, bored, spoiled, social networking savvy kids, once nobodies in the society, now caused major disturbance to civilization. WTF is going here?!

What bugs me is there was no clear motive for this peace time riot / looting. You may say a police shooting that's what ignited a demonstration in the beginning. But what happened next was just unbelievable and unjustified. There was no war, no political unrest, no shortage of resources, no natural disaster, no racial tension, no religious conflicts, no anger from sport event, nothing! Yet the cities were turned into war zones: stores / cars burned down, and kids looting cellphones and other merchandize. Just WTF motivate these kids to terrorized their own city / town in such a way?!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/10/uk-britain-unrest-yo...1H20110810
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14462688

I don't live in London / England. So I am not so sure what's social / political environment there. I am sure not all the kids were rioters, of course.

What I am afraid most is something similar will spread to other countries, such as U.S. I know some of you may say it's not possible, since there are guns here legally available. And store owners would arm themselves up for the fight. But still, plenty of delinquent teens here... ;)


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Meats_Of_Evil Aug 10, 2011, 12:54pm EDT Report Abuse
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The government needs to step it up and bring more social activities to these damn kids, they need to know what an education can provide for them, the adults need to show them the way, they're probably just confused and uninspired and just listened to any a**hole teen who think he knows what power and anarchy really is. Heck, army recruiters should be put at every corner, once they tell them they'll get free booty overseas and get to shoot weapons they'll sign up and learn some discipline.

If all else fails bring on Harry Brown.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289406/combined

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john albrich Aug 10, 2011, 01:17pm EDT Report Abuse
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It's been observed that cellular/mobile technology has vastly enabled those riots and provided specific targets.

Blackberries were reported as specifically being used by many of those involved. (apparently cheaper Blackberries are an increasingly popular social tool amongst teens).

I've seen a report that requests to Twitter to disable their capabilities in these areas during the emergency have been denied on free speech grounds. A similar thing was claimed re: mobile/cell texting and messaging services.


No one is saying it, but I have to wonder if the rioters are being manipulated by second or third parties...private and/or governmental.

It's obvious to me that these services COULD be used to covertly manipulate people and groups during such events. For example, someone wanting to use the riots for their own agenda could conceivably spoof texts and tweets supplying specific groups with information they then might think came from "their" organizers...but in fact did not. Or, such manipulation could be used to incite people to violence, target specific locations or groups, etc. regardless of any organizational ties.

The power to manipulate "street" activity/violence in real-time is alarming. However, I do understand the free speech issue. The technology could also be used in a "good" and necessary way to legitimately help rebel against a corrupt government.

But, thank goodness our current President wants an internet "Kill Switch" at his immediate command... :~

Dr. Peaceful Aug 10, 2011, 01:36pm EDT Report Abuse
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LOL, Meats. Never seen Harry Brown, not sure what it's about. But Michael Caine sure is good actor.

I think the most effective way for delinquent kids is to legalize teachers to use acceptable physical punishments to pupils. I grew up in schools that teachers could beat your hands up with a meter stick, if you don't behave. I think that's a very acceptable punishment. ;)

Dr. Peaceful Aug 10, 2011, 02:21pm EDT Report Abuse
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Wait, John... there's such thing as Da Kill Zwitch for ze Internetz?! :O

I agreed with you that manipulation from higher organization is entirely possible.

john albrich Aug 10, 2011, 02:31pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Service Providers and Hackers Impacting London Riots?

Dr. Peaceful Aug 10, 2011, 02:56pm EDT Report Abuse
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Holy sh*t... hope it's not going become a global hacking war...

sigh... mankind is f**ked up. We are all sinners... we are.

Meats_Of_Evil Aug 10, 2011, 03:52pm EDT Report Abuse
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Dr. Paz (47810) said on Aug 10, 2011 at 14:36 ADT:
LOL, Meats. Never seen Harry Brown, not sure what it's about. But Michael Caine sure is good actor.

I think the most effective way for delinquent kids is to legalize teachers to use acceptable physical punishments to pupils. I grew up in schools that teachers could beat your hands up with a meter stick, if you don't behave. I think that's a very acceptable punishment.


You have to see it man its a very good movie. It's basically what a man ( a real man I mean :P ) would do if this kind of situation escalates to an out of control level. When Mr. Harry Brown has had enough of the delinquency of today's British youth he decides to take matters into his own hands. When all else fails, put a cap in an ass.

lol.

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Shawn Langley Aug 12, 2011, 12:12pm EDT Report Abuse
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I was going to type my thoughts on this.... but this guy sums it up in one

http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/a/u/0/9pAC0YSmK0g

If only people like him ran the country we'd be far better as a nation, then natural selection would do its job and kill this scum off or turn them into something useful.

Having voices in your head is normal. Listening to them, common. Arguing, acceptable. However, when you lose the argument, you're in trouble.
Dr. Peaceful Aug 13, 2011, 04:39pm EDT Report Abuse
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Point. ;)

john albrich Aug 13, 2011, 06:37pm EDT Report Abuse
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Thanks re: tip-off on "Harry Brown".

Better than any classic Charles Bronson "vigilante" or more recent "The Punisher" movies I've seen, and better than most "lone-wolf" style movies...unless your preference is for the massive explosions and blood and brains everywhere every 5 minutes movies.

Nails right on the head a number of UK social, sub-cultures, and police/govt issues.

BTW, some years ago I spent quite some time with the law enforcement heads in London and Sheriffs in a number of Shires (including the Sheriff of Nottingham :D), and worked with folks in the MET. Even then, I could see things going all to hell.

angryhippy Aug 15, 2011, 10:30pm EDT Report Abuse
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Ya, Harry Brown was good. I've always liked anything Michael Caine does. Saw it on Netflix. As for the riots, I must say I thoroughly enjoyed the few I was able to participate in. A good time was had by all. Well, maybe not the 1965 Watts riots, but there was one mini riot after a PIL, Social D, Butthole Surfers concert in downtown L.A. that I really did enjoy. Mostly consisting of throwing beer bottles at the LAPD who thought it would be fun to harass people coming out of the stadium after the concert.

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kevin sprake Aug 18, 2011, 04:49am EDT Report Abuse
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It's all died down for a bit now. The govt. just giving out ludicrous prison sentences now which will get overturned on appeal no doubt (and make rich lawyers richer).
Nothing's been solved as usual........we've just turned into a third world country:(:(

angryhippy Aug 18, 2011, 06:31am EDT Report Abuse
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kevin sprake said:
We've just turned into a third world country:(:(
Join the club. We've seemed to have made it without the riots on the other side of the pond here.

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john albrich Aug 27, 2011, 12:16am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Young Kids F**ked Up England?! WTF is going on??
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Some suggest it's just the calm before the storm...give it 18 months regardless of whether Dems/Reps are "in power" after the 2012 elections.

Elements from multiple political groups suggest such will be intentionally manipulated to influence the national 2012 elections on this "side of the pond".

Meats_Of_Evil Aug 28, 2011, 11:32pm EDT Report Abuse
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Shawn Langley (47036) said on Aug 12, 2011 at 13:12 ADT:
I was going to type my thoughts on this.... but this guy sums it up in one

http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/a/u/0/9pAC0YSmK0g

If only people like him ran the country we'd be far better as a nation, then natural selection would do its job and kill this scum off or turn them into something useful.

Having voices in your head is normal. Listening to them, common. Arguing, acceptable. However, when you lose the argument, you're in trouble.


Bravo, I'd support this man if he were to run in politics.

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