I found something out about these Bulldozer's. Everytime you try and benchmark, the dam CPU clocks down and up during the test, but the issue is it clocks way down, right down to about 1.4 GHz. This affected my final score by a lot. I had to go into the BIOS and disable everysingle power saving(s) options in order to perform a proper benchmark test. And my score went up a A LOT......
Anyhow this is way faster than my late Phenom II x4 940 that I was running at 3.60 GHz. This CPU kills it even at it's stock 3.1 GHz speed But it loses to my PII if I enable the power saving features. " title=">">
is the bulldozer processors really that good? i keep seeing in benchmarks that its on par, perhaps a little bit over in performance compared to phenom2... what kinda fps u gettin in bf3 for example?
i'd love to hear more about performance of your bulldozer, cause the only thing ive heard in the pc world is how much bulldozer sucks.. so it would be nice with a different perspective..
lol, Bulldozer is not an epic fail. It has good price/performance. I fully agree that the design needs some tweaking but when I compare my Phenom II x4 3.60GHz with my now AMD FX-8120 at 3.60GHz, I get a boost in performance in games such as Skyrim and Left 4 Dead 2 along with Metro 2033. The Multi-tasking is crazy fast and my system feels a lot more snapier.
The downside is one you try to hit over 4.50 GHz with all 8-cores it takes a lot of vCore. So I found my sweet spot at 4.40 GHz with a minor bump in vCore at 1.375v.
Though I did find an issue with most motherboard bios's. AMD's application power management seems to underclock the CPU everytime the CPU goes over it's stock 125w thermals. I've seen this in benchmarks with my CPU where while I'm testing the CPU, the bloody CPU downclocks and gives me a lower score.
I am not saying this is the culprit for Bulldozer benchmark and it's average score, but it's something to look into and something AMD needs to resolve ASAP.
Bios-Bug Issue It's been reported by several tech sites that there may be a bios bug at the moment within several motherboard's based on the Socket AM3+ platform that causes the new AMD FX-series CPU's to downclock when the CPU exceeds its 125w thermal limit. Currently the issue is with AMD's application power management hardware feature where if it goes over its 125w thermal limit it automatically down-clocks. Most benchmarks push the processor slightly past its 125w limit and therefore record inaccurate test results. Review sites also attempted to disable any and all power saving features within the bios before benchmarking these processors, but with no luck. Currently not all motherboards have the ability to disable this option. AMD has been working closely with ASUS to try and rectify this thermal down-clocking issue. Other motherboard manufactures including but not limited to Gigabyte and MSI are also hard at work, trying to correct this issue by way of a modified bios.
Desktop Performance market (Volan platform): Zambezi will be replaced by Vishera, with up to 8 cores; it will have Turbo Core 3.0 while using the existing Socket AM3+ format and 9xx series chipset of the 1st generation FX-series Zambezi processor. AMD says that this 2nd-generation FX-series processor code name Piledriver will offer upto 20% to 30% better performance increase under digital media workloads.
Piledriver is now scheduled for release in the Q3 2012 time frame with samples being released to motherboard manufactures in Q2 2012. Piledriver will be based on the Socket AM3+ platform.
The Piledriver that was suppose to replace Bulldozer in Q1 2012 is no more, and now we see it coming in late Q3 2012. This tells me AMD is fixing any and all issues to ensure Piledriver performs the way it was meant to. They are calling it Enhanced Bulldozer Design.
Only time will tell, until then, I will EnJoY my FX-8120 for now
dozer is an epic fail. its so fail they've lied about the transistor count. If people would have know how little transistors that 8-core chip has, everyone would go "WTF" and probably already expect the low performance.
The only reason I admire AMD is because they keep socket compatibility. Unlike intel who make each new CPU with a new socket and charge B.S. amounts for mobo's.
I wouldn't say Bulldozer is an epic fail, AMD had balls of steel to releade this FX series despite the fact it didn't perform the way it was designed to. Obviously more than one person messed up Bulldozer within AMD by relying on way too much automation design and took away the hand work, something, the hand work which made the Athlon 64, just to name one, fast and successful.
For me, the FX-8120 in a performance leep vs. my older Phenom II setup and it didn't cost me an arm/leg in the process
Have I known about Bulldozer before I bought my mobo, then I would have waited for Piledriver next year.
Anyhow I am happy with what I got and with the OC mt temps are great, 55C or less with my H100 under load, and 30C to 33C idle
By the way AMD's been making record bulldozer sales and demand for this series is nuts. GloFo screwed up this time...