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J L Jan 16, 2012, 01:19am EST Report Abuse
Hey all... its been way too long but finally have the op to build a new one for myself.. havent been keeping up too much on the latest and greatest hw details but I need to get started quick and I need a hand in the right direction, so here is the scoop and any useful info would be appreciated:

- I need a good balance of price/performance.. budget is under $1k includes everything but a display
- My priorities in usage is: General massive multitasking (ie, 10 windows open at once, possible 100 different tabs open across 3 different browser types), heavy Photoshop (some massive files), high end gaming (FPS, adventure/strategy etc...)

*** CASE: I already have a LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black ATX Mid from back when, brand new... will this be good enough to use (consider those gargantuan coolers)?
*** MB: I have NO idea about this one, but I see the ASUS Sabertooth X58 has some of the best ratings, so lets start there, altho its a bit pricey for me...
*** CPU: Really dont care Intel/AMD, but I have gone with Intel for myself my whole life, but I have used many reliable AMD for clients... I would like to go with some form of the i7, might as well right? Just then need to know the right model and any revisions, etc....
*** Cooling: Still going to stick with air cool... unless someone things one of those portable water coolers (I think from coolermaster?) is better in performance, price and silence. This also has to fit in the case I have so... any thoughts are appreciated... I will OC if possible, wouldnt mind getting to 4.0 safely.
*** RAM: Fastest compatible for my MB without breaking my bank.. assuming something like 2x4GB for now (unless I will feel an actual difference with a 3x4 or a 2x8... can always add another 4-8 later).. the G.SKILL Ripjaws (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) seems nice for $42
*** PSU: I still have a brand new XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W, would love to use it, dont think its modular but heck it will save me $$$ from getting a new one
*** Video Card: The HD6850 for about $150 seems like the best deal but I usually use nVidia, so how about the GeForce GTX 560 Ti for about $220?
*** HD: Thinking of again going with the Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLHX 300GB 6.0Gb/s 32MBcache... would love to run a RAID 0, but just too freakin expensive, so maybe I'll just stick with one, unless someone thinks putting in a 7200rpm in RAID 0 will be faster? HD speed is pretty important to me, lotta file crap.

I think thats about it... help! Thanks!


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BoT Jan 16, 2012, 01:44am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: New build help
i would go with something like this:

ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131806

Intel Core i5-2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
or better
Intel Core i7-2600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

CORSAIR H70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181019

SAMSUNG 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147095
or better
SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726

the Z68 will keep you in the up coming ivy bridge curve
the 2500k is for the budget, the 2600k should be able to handle what you need
the 212 evo is pretty good and they often have sales where you could get it cheaper, the liquid cooler are pretty good and if you plan to overclock or have it heavy load continuesly then i would go that route
the samsung ram might not like like much on paper but in a system looks a lot different
they overclock very well and remain low voltage

instead of raid'ing vr's get a ssd and get a decent storage drive. even in reaid the vr's can't touch even a halfway decent ssd and with the z68 you get smart cache

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J L Jan 17, 2012, 12:20am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: New build help
Hi,and thanks! I did a little more research and how about this.... if any if yours is better, feel free to tell me:

Btw how can you easily "quote" someone here multiple times within the same post like you do? I copy and paste the tags but that seems dumb... I tried that little button on the lower right but it put a "check" mark and then ........ not sure if thats even it.

Anyways, down the stretch:
Already have:
Case: LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black ATX Mid [[ $70 ]]
PSU: XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W [[ $70 ]]
And lying around somewhere
DVD-RW [[ $30 ]]
2x1TB (7200rpm) [[ $110 NIB]] + [[ used backup ]]

MB: GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 [[ $123 Amazon... I hate Newegg now anyway]]
CPU: Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2500K [[ $210 ]]
http://www.1stchoicememory.com/catalog/viewitem.asp?ID=36773&r=g
Little risky here but unless someone says NO, I'll try it for this price
I neglected the "K"... for a few bucks more, I'll take it for the op to maybe hit 4.0
COOLER: CWCH60 [[ $50 Amazon]] For $30 more is the H70 worth it?
RAM: Patriot PSD38G1600KH 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM [[ $30 ]] (Thanks Melon!)
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1 GB GDDR5 GV-N560OC-1GI [[ $210 Amazon]]
HD: Crucial 128 GB m4 SATA 6Gb/s CT128M4SSD2 [[ $189 Amazon]]

Thanks!

BoT Jan 17, 2012, 01:32pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: New build help
J L said:
Hi,and thanks!

No prob

Btw how can you easily "quote" someone here multiple times within the same post like you do?

no multi quote in this forum. i have to write them all out too :(


MB: GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 [[ $123 Amazon... I hate Newegg now anyway]]

That would be a good option too

CPU: Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2500K [[ $210 ]]

way to go, if you have microcenter anywhere near you, they have them for $179


no idea about this, i can't be for or against but i'd be aware

I neglected the "K"... for a few bucks more, I'll take it for the op to maybe hit 4.0

absolutely go with the "K". not maybe hit 4.0ghz, you will. you "maybe" hit 4.5 or even 5.0 ghz

COOLER: CWCH60 [[ $50 Amazon]] For $30 more is the H70 worth it?

the H60 is fine, i don't think the H70 is worth $30 more

RAM: Patriot PSD38G1600KH 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM [[ $30 ]] (Thanks Melon!)

good, cheaper. the samsung can take you up to 2133 and maybe even higher. i have 16gb running at 2133 with cas 10 at 1.5v

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1 GB GDDR5 GV-N560OC-1GI [[ $210 Amazon]]
HD: Crucial 128 GB m4 SATA 6Gb/s CT128M4SSD2 [[ $189 Amazon]]

good choices as well

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DoubleDouble Jan 17, 2012, 06:56pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: New build help
2500K is a BEAST overclocker.

I run mine on air ( Zalman CPS9900 ) at 4.3 Ghz maxing at 48 degrees.

Easily the best CPU I have ever owned.

J L Jan 17, 2012, 08:42pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: New build help
BoT said:

RAM: Patriot PSD38G1600KH 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM [[ $30 ]] (Thanks Melon!)

good, cheaper. the samsung can take you up to 2133 and maybe even higher. i have 16gb running at 2133 with cas 10 at 1.5v


Which Samsung? Is it comparable price and reliability?

BoT Jan 17, 2012, 10:24pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: New build help
SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

it's about $55 bucks a set. they use 30nm chips, are low profil and low voltage and run very cool, don't need a heat spreader.

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john albrich Jan 17, 2012, 11:58pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: New build help
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If you're willing to wait for the opportunity (usu. comes along once a month or so) you should be able to find decent 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz 1.5V RAM at ~$35 on sale+newegg "shellshocker" and/or promo code, and without requiring a rebate submittal. Note that some RAM are XMS certified (Intel). I've had zero probs with DDR3-1600MHz GSKILL, Corsair, and PNY on AMD motherboards. But of course there's always an elevated risk when you use a RAM module that isn't tested as "OK" by the motherboard manufacturer.

Also keep in mind that even if XMS RAM should auto-set the parameters to run at 1600MHz, you should still verify the speeds and voltages once up and running. I've read posts where folks had XMS RAM and they still had to manually "overclock" their Intel CPU motherboard to achieve the 1600MHz speed. Otherwise it defaulted to 1333MHz.

BoT Jan 18, 2012, 03:09am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: New build help
true, also check the voltages as most motherboards default to 1.65v

You can either be part of the problem or be part of the solution.
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Rhort Jan 18, 2012, 05:30am EST Report Abuse
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I've got my 2500k @ 4.4Ghz with air cooling (a Xigmatek Dark Knight Cooler). My machine will quite happily rip a DVD whilst recording a programme from the TV tuner, whilst playing MP3s on WinAmp in the background, whilst I'm playing Skyrim maxed out. Can't see why you'd immediately need anything more.

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